fanny was born 1824 in greasborough but am unable to find her on the 1861 or 1871 census.

there are 2 deaths in the 1840s but ages are wrong.

there is a marriage in 1878 for a fanny willey with correct father joshua but im not convinced this is her.

Can anyone come up with any other suggestions please.

cheers

john

Hi John,

If you can post the 1851 census info that would help.

Elaine.

not found her yet, need to try variants of names but she is becoming elusive.

think the Fanny willey I found the marriage for in 1878 is the one born in Hoyland in 1849 her father was also called Joshua.

Hi John,

Its all very vague........

What info do you have to research her....... You have to give us more info.

How does she fit in with your tree?????

Elaine.

John my observations.

I used FMP which you have.......

Greasborough Parish Church has all the siblings baptised together.Six of them in 1837. DOB given on the baptisms.

Joshua was a butcher on those baptisms and the 1841 census.

Fanny was 16 at that time.(1841)

The marriage you mention the fathers occupation was not a Butcher.(FMP)

The 1843 death was a child (GRO) info.

Sooooo more research for you to follow through with.

Elaine.

Consider this possibility from the Church Records on this site:
WILEY, Fanny (Spinster, age 20, ~, residing at Wicker).
Married Richard LAMBERT, on June 6, 1843, by John Gibson (Banns) at
Sheffield Parish Church, Church Street, Sheffield. Father's name is Josa Wiley (Butcher).
Married in the presence of J Hudson,J Kirk.
Notes: Bride and Groom signed with a mark.
Page No: 247 Reg No: 493

Terry that is a good shout thank you.i thought it must be to do with a variant of some kind must check my notes but I'm sure the wicker area is connected to the family. I've started to use family search now and getting use to it.

Fanny Willey (father Joshua Willey) married George Butler on the 24th January 1878, High Hoyland Yorkshire. (Sheffield Archives)

Will thank you that fanny was born in 1849ish her father joshua was a brother of the fanny born in 1824.

In the 1851 census at Grape Street Hunslet near Leeds are
Richard Lambert 30
Fanny Lambert 26
Both born Greasborough. Also
son Deacon, 3 mo born Hunslet.

GRO has birth registration for Deakin Lambert, mother nee Willey, December quarter 1850.

Cheers Terry. Found the kids

Fanny had a brother called Joshua born 1822 in 1842 he married annis hawke in Sheffield.

Annis was baptised in 1817 at Wentworth, yorkshire and it states her parents were John and Ann

From census records John was born circa 1791.

The ear;iest baptism I have found for the children of John and ann is Sarah in 1812.

My problem is that I cant find a marriage for a John Hawke/Hawk to Ann circa 1810

This has been puzzling me for a long time and it would be fantastic if I am able to solve this.

Any help would be truly appreciated, it might be that the did not marry in Yorkshire and John was born way before 1791 (took that year from census and death records)

Thank in advance

John

Morning John,

Good old Family Search is turning up John in Wentworth.

Let you fingers do the walking and all will be revealed.


Elaine.

Is this the family in 1841. From our 1841 index.

Hawke, Ann of Nursery Street, Brightside. Aged 50 years.
(Piece #1329/1, folio 35a, enumeration district 2.)


Hawke, John of Nursery Street, Brightside. Aged 55 years.
(Piece #1329/1, folio 35a, enumeration district 2.)

Have you thought that John could have been married twice.

There is a John & Ruth 1810 listed.

Elaine.

Yes I had thought about that and ruth died during childbirth before Sarah was born. I wonder if Ruth had the middle name Ann as well and that was how she was known

John in Wentworth b 1791.

another thing I shall try is was john on the marriage indexed as Jno for example.

all these to try but just got in from a 10 hour shift at work so i shall look in the morning

John

From Ancestry

Marriage at St Mary Bishophill Junior, York Feb 27 1810 John Hawkes, shoemaker, of parish Goodramgate (York) to Hannah Wright otp.
Witnesses Jane Atkinson, Sarah Wood, Tho Slaton, J Featherstone

Dave

Dave cheers. So he must have been working there met Hannah and then moved back to Wentworth. Shall have a study later in week when free time permits

Dave, using your expert knowledge how confident are you that the above marriage is correct? I presume they mean the marriage took place at YORK or were they refering to YORK as being the county?

The two parishes mentioned are in York (the city).
That marriage took place in that place with those names on that date. You must find a way to see if it is the one you are looking for or not.
Dave

Cheers dave. The cheers dave will have a closer look it could be that the church they married in is not on any websites yet.

Wentworth is right on the border covering Barnsley and Doncaster if I remember rightly but do you think Ecclesfield could come into play?

Still think church the marriage took place at might not have been transcribed yet so it might have yo be an email to the relevant archives not sure which one though any thoughts please?