Thanks Barry, do you think John Bottom bap 17 Jan 1816 to parents Thomas and Ann is Caroline's brother, or from a bifferent family?

On Caroline and John's baptisms, the father Thomas is a cutler. If you search the
apprentices and freemen column on the left, you may be able to work out which Thomas
is their father.

Moira.

Thanks Moira,

I never knew what Freemen was etc but if you state he was a cutler that is going a long way to thinking that they are connected. I must first recheck marriage records for them both. Think I am losing the plot.

John

Follow up. when John married Sarah H Atkinson Thomas was a cutler and so was John

When caroline married Peter Sharman Thomas was a cutler and one of the witnesses was John Bottom.

Think its 100% now

John, if you follow Moira's advice you will find his birth year and the name and occupation of his father
Dave

James Bottom born 1854 give MMN as Atkinson.

I can only find one marriage and that is John Bottom born 1816 to Sarah Horton Akinson Aug 1838.

Looking at the baptism on this site it says Sarah born 1822 father John mother Ann.

Please can someone look at the original image and tell me please what do you think it says for the name of her father..do you think it says John Horton Atkinson?

If it does that rules my theory out that a John Atkinson married an Ann Horton.

Sarah was baptised in 1833 along with a brother on the same day who was born in 1820 and was also calle John Horton Atkinson

John it states Jno. I am presuming the Church was st Johns Park.

John you need to look at FMP more closley. More than one Sarah Horton Atkinson.

Elaine.

Thanks Elaine, will do from a very stormy uk

I must go to get my eyes tested as no luck yet. I still think the marraige cert is the same Sarah as on the baptism because of occupation of John