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Re: Ecclesall All Saints

just looked at the census and the John Willey the mason was with his father called Richard so wrong Willey family but nevertheless Richard I presume could be Joshua's brother will look into that later. Really need John Willey with a father Joshua first marriage

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John
1851 Census Greasborough. John Willey 36 Widower, butcher living with his father Joshua also butcher.
Dave

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1836 Rotherham John Willey bachelor married Mary Nightsales spinster.
on 1841 census Greasborough John 25, Mary 40.

Death 1848 Greasborough Mary Willey 52

Baptism Masborough 1800 Mary Nightscales

Dave


Re: Ecclesall All Saints

Greasbrough(sic) marriage registers commence in 1849, previously a chapelry in Rotherham parish which is where marriages would be. See Sheffield Archives ref PR16.

There are transcripts on Genuki, also baptisms & burials e.g:

https://www.genuki.org.uk/search?keys=greasbrough+marriages

Re: Ecclesall All Saints

Dave,

Thanks for the info, you have confirmed my theory now that John Willey married someone much older then himself. That does seem strange unless mary was expecting and both sets of parents made them marry

Re: Ecclesall All Saints

Found a death of a John Butler buried Feb 1852 at shalesmoor st Phillips but no other information shown, could this be the John Butler that married Elizabeth Waller.

We have not found him on the 1841 or 1851 census as he was not with his wife and children on any of them.

Anyone any thoughts on this

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"Found a death of a John Butler buried Feb 1852 at shalesmoor st Phillips but no other information shown, could this be the John Butler that married Elizabeth Waller."

Hi John, in the 1851 census there was a John Butler, shoemaker, aged 45 born Conisbrough living at Court 4 Shalesmoor. I'm wondering if the burial might have been for that guy, with him living in the parish?

Heths

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Heather that is the burial I found, with the info you found on the 1851 census I think we can rule this burial out as the one I am looking for.

Still wonder now if possibly up to no good, shall have to look at the crime and punishment section or the newspapers to see if anything shows up