Hello again Dave

One step at a time with this

On the burial section of this site there is a Nellie Robinson wife of William age 47 buried in the same grave as her husband i.e. Norton No 28 Sec SA
Nellie died at 38 Heeley Green. As i commented in my post of Nov 29th 10-14 pm, that was the
address of my grandmother Lily Robinson nee Dale when she married.
I therefore assumed that there was a family connection i.e William the brother of my grandfather Thomas with his wife Nellie

Could it be and it appears likely that we are talking about 2 separate Robinson families !

Hope that makes sense !

Back to you

Roger

I think the purchase of a marriage certificate would provide an answer

Roger

Just looking through my Robison information
In the 1891 census at 229 Allen Street in Sheffield
William is shown aged 4 months
This is more than good evidence of the year of birth of William

Roger, the marriage cert for William Robinson b 1866 who married Nelly Smith is available on line. He declares his father as Charles. That William is not the brother of your Thomas.
THE 1891 Census in Abbeydale Road has John Robinson (scale cutter) and his wife Mary Ann with many children including Thomas b 1873 and William b 1871.
The GRO index shows all the children mmn Bolden and the marriage of John Robinson to Mary Ann Boulding is available on line. Their son born in 1871 was actually John William.
JOHN William, cutler, married twice and both certs are available on line. The first in 1891 Sheffield to AnnHansen. His father declared as John, a scale cutter.
The second in 1902 West Derby, John William b1870 a cutler, widower, married Sarah Ellen Convey, spinster. JOHN WILLIAMS father was John, A Scale cutter. BY 1911 CENSUS THEY HAD 5 CHILDREN, ALL CONFIRMED ON gro mmn Convey and John William was born Sheffield.
Dave

PS John W Robinson died 1941 Liverpool S age 70. ON 1939 register he is alone in Liverpool and gives birthday as 10 Dec 1871. Actually he was a year out. It was 1870, making him 4 months old at 1871 census. His birth reg was in March 1871.
Dave

Correction. His first marriage was to ADA Hanson, not Ann

Hi Dave and many thanks for your help, more than I thought and a mystery cleared.
However I am still confused by the existence of the other William and his wife Nellie and the fact that Nellie died at 38 Heeley Green the home of my grandmother Lily when she married

SAME ADDRESS BUT NOT SAME time. The events were separated by 20 yrs or more.
JUST A COINCIDENCE
Dave