Roger
(H)Anna Eliza was birth registered at the end of March 1863. Her illegitimate son Joshua was born 14th Feb 1879. So Ann Eliza was probably not yet 16. This means she conceived very shortly after her 15th birthday. That is very young
I suggest you buy Joshua's birth cert (digital image, only £2.50). If you are lucky one of Ann Eliza's parents may have may have registered it.
For what it is worth I think you are right to ignore the pinch of salt. I have 3 cases of incest in my tree. It was more common than you may think.
On the subject of Joshua and "learning difficulties": the 1901 census entry has Joshua and his wife and a 3 month old child. With them is a lady named as Hannah Eliza Colk, 68 yrs old and said to be his MOTHER. This is clearly his GRANDMOTHER, Eliza Colk, b 1833. But note that his actual mother, who died when he was just 3 was actually called Hannah Eliza. Is this confusion an example of his difficulties?
Dave
This is probably nothing but here goes. The Hannah Eliza Colk that Elaine found in the General Cemetery buried in 1882 aged 19.
There are lots of people buried in this grave but one that stood out for me is a burial in 1910 aged 55 years of an Albert REED. Is this significant or just a coincidence.
Born 1855 could he have been Joshua's father?
Sorry if nothing but wonder if Dave and Elaine thinks its worth investigating.
No problem for me in researching, I like the challenge. However I don't do it at any great speed.
You my Dear lady are always first of the start line with information.
I am not complaining !!
My thanks to you again. There are many folks on this Forum who are a treasure to other amateur family historians.
When I set the site up way back we put the Message Forum there to be used especially for those not as confident in their research.That included myself at that time. I had had my knuckles wrapped a few times on a another site (Yorks Gen)?? and vowed our site wouldn't do that.
However saying that I do like folks to become as confident as possible in doing their own research. I know DaveT has ways and means of finding material that I wouldn't necessarily find. Thats the joy of it all. BUT we all love a problem as you know and try our best to help.
Keep going at your own speed but the GRO will help. I checked FreeCen out for you and they are not there on the 1911 census but FMP & Ancestry have them.
Soooooo have fun and I think JohnS comment might bear fruit. Fingers crossed.
This is probably nothing but here goes. The Hannah Eliza Colk that Elaine found in the General Cemetery buried in 1882 aged 19.
There are lots of people buried in this grave but one that stood out for me is a burial in 1910 aged 55 years of an Albert REED. Is this significant or just a coincidence.
Born 1855 could he have been Joshua's father?
Sorry if nothing but wonder if Dave and Elaine thinks its worth investigating.
John
Albert Reed is in the same SECTION as Hannah Elizabeth Colk but a different GRAVE number.
Dave