OK Dave many thanks for info.

Hi Terry

I cannot find Fred on 1911 either. 1901 Fred was single with family at Stanley Fold Oughtibridge. I think Fred & Mary (Autey/Window) are at 8 Renishaw Wood View Renishaw Chesterfield for the 1939. I then believe Mary died 1953 Chesterfield and by the 1954 Electoral Reg Fred is back with family at Stanley Fold Oughtibridge ( not sure if the original electoral Reg would show he was a widower) but I may be wrong on this!!!!

Just cannot find Fred ... or 1939
A possibility for the 1901 couple (with a nearby address to 1911):
1939 register, Stocksbridge
62 Hayward Park
Ibbotson, Fred, 29 Dec 78, M(arried), motor attendant steel works
Ibbotson, Alice A, 1 Feb 74, M, unpaid domestic duties

There are 6 Fred Ibbotson births (BMD) Dec 1878 - March 1879 quarters (3 Sheffield, 1 Ecclesall B)!

Hi David I,
Have you seen the baptism record on this site for:

FRED IBBOTSON (of 4ct. Dun Street)
Born: Nov/25th/1879..?? (I think 1878)
Baptized: Jan/29th/1879 at St.Jude, Moorfields
Parents: Elizabeth & William (File Cutter).
The GRO Reg is B:1879 March qtr.Sheffield. MMN:SWAIN (a March registration on GRO could also apply to a birth in the last quarter of the previous year).
There were a number of children baptized to this couple, one of whom was Charlotte Matilda(also with mmn.Swain) and are mentioned in S.I. Parish Records under baptisms on this site over to your left.

Note to Elaine: FYI The S.I. record shows the birth after the baptism..??
HAPPY HUNTING:sleuth_or_spy:

Hi Wendy,

Thanks for the heads up. I have changed it but as I no longer have the originals I wasn't able to follow up what had happened.

IBBOTSON, FRED SWAIN
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 429

From the GRO Index.

Elaine.

Interesting that the FamilySearch transcription also has the 25 November 1879 birth and 29 January 1879 baptism.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:66BR-R8LS
Their image is only viewable at Family Search centres and affiliates.

Can now confirm from birth certificate that Fred Ibbotson was born 25 Nov 1878 and his birth was registered 3 Jan 1879. So assume his baptism should read 1879. Regards

Hi Elaine

Just to confirm that the original image does have the birth as

25 Nov 1879

And the Baptism date of 29 Jan 1879.

So the birth date was recorded as after the baptism date.

Our original transcription was correct and it was an error made by the minister at the time.

Denise

Hi Denise,

Yup it happens, especially when a child is born at the end of a year but not registered until the new year.The Vicar then carries on with a new mistake. But we have it sorted for Dave now. LOL.

Elaine.

Yes I thank you all. I have taken advantage of the new £2.50 digital image certs from GRO and caught up on the last birth Certs for the children of my William & Elizabeth (ggp) which I had not got.....BUT still missing one..Edith Ibbotson 1874-1877. She is on SI baptism record, and is buried in Loxley with Elizabeth's Swain family members (Elaine's find). But cannot find Edith on GRO with a mmn Swain?