Wendy, Thanks. Found it (in Oldham). He was married with a wife Elizabeth (nee Taylor) and 2yr old son James. He was also born in the wrong place (Saddleworth).
Thankyou for your hard work however I do have the information you found. I also have John and Mary’s marriage certificate which states that he is of age and his father is Daniel Dunkerley. John does seem to disappear though and cannot be found after his marriage in 1856. I believe I have found their son Herbert in 1861 under Herbert Domcaly , boarder.
I hadn’t considered that the marriage might be illegal on Mary’s part but wondered if it has ever been known for thd Vicar or registrar to have unknowingly been performing marriages?
Louise
Louise, thanks for the occupation. Sorry I should also have asked for his address at the time of the marriage in 1856 please.
Are you aware of the following two newspaper articles in 1862
Huddersfield Chronicle August 16th
Glossop Record Nov 1st
In the first a John Dunkerley of Quickwood near Mossley was found guilty of assaulting his wife
and sentenced to 14 days at Wakefield house of correction.
In the second, quite a long article, a young woman called Ann Davies is found guilty of stealing clothing (including a baby jacket) from the house of John Dunkerley, Glossop. On reading the full article it is clear that although it was the house of John Dunkerley, he was not there. His wife MARY Dunkerley was the person showing kindness to Ann Davies and providing her with a bed for the night, and it was she (Mary Dunkerley)who chased the accused (about 6am) and brought her to court.
The address given is just Ashton. They are married at Ashton Under Lyne.
Thd newspaper articles are interesting. Mary was born in Glossop and her son Herbert is a boarder there in 1861. Thankyou for that. I don't have access to newspaper reports or censuses at this point. I'm getting nearly all of my information from Sheffield Indexers.
There is a very convenient death in Kings Ward, Brooklyn, New York in Sept 1879.
He died of Consumtpion. He was an Engineer, 42 (ie b abt 1837), married. His birth place (and those of his parents) given as England. He had lived there for 10 years.
So he arrived in Kings Ward Brooklyn about 1869 and he died in late 1879.
If he is correct that death would release Mary Dunkerley to marry Charles Hall in 1881.
Can anyone find him in USA please? Maybe 1870 census?
Dave
John, brilliant thank you. That closes the loop.
It's in Brooklyn, NYC and the 8 month old child is DAN born in NYC. Note that the John we are looking for was born 1836 in Stockport and his Father was DANIEL, who had recently died.(Q1 1867 Stockport)
So we can now place John Dunkerley at his brothers marriage on December 24 1866 in Prestwich. BY January 1870 he is in Brooklyn NYC because son Dan is born there to English born *wife*, Mary. Presumably they did not marry in England (that would be bigamy). Maybe they married In NYC , maybe they did not marry.
He dies in Brooklyn in Sept 1879 having lived there since 1869, allowing His widow, Mary nee Bray to finally and legally marry Charles Hall in England, which they did in 1881.
It has been a fascinating problem and it all fits together perfectly
End of story.
Dave
Wilfred’s birth certificate is ordered so we’ll see what that shows us. Meanwhile I have found a burial for a Daniel P Dunkerley, born 1869 Brooklyn , New York. Died 1928 and buried New Rochelle , New York. He was a Spanish American war soldier Sgt , 2nd marine corps. Enlisted Apr 1898
Louise, thanks. Great find. I assume you have followed the links to the various censuses for Daniel, 1875 and 1880 in particular. There is confusion over his mothers name and age and his 2 younger sisters are in 1875 but missing in 1880.
You have a whole new world to explore
looking forward to seeing what you find about Wilfred's birth.
Dave
Great find Wendy. I guessed wrong again: John DID commit bigamy in England. But he did it a long way from home in Stepney in Q3 1869, as they were about to leave for USA (because on 20 May 1870 just 8 to 11 months later Daniel P Dunkerley was born in Brooklyn. Clearly John was not going to be caught for his felony.
Daniel was baptised Daniel PEERS Dunkerley at Trinity Church Brooklyn 20th June 1870.
In the 1875 NY State Census at 94 10th Street Brooklyn John (36??) and MARION (22??) have children Daniel 5, Harriet 4 and Mary 2, all 3 born NYC.
In the 1880 Federal Census there is a strange entry (John died the year before)
Mary (29) and Daniel (10) are living with 3 Irish born Kelly siblings (ages 35 to 40) on 4th Street and Mary (Marion) is said to be their sister and Daniel their brother. No sign of Harriet or young Mary, who would have been 9 and 7.
US censuses can be just as confusing as ours!!
Dave
Wilfred’s birth certificate hasn’t revealed anything new. He was born in Hayfield Glossop on 20 th July 1861. Mothers name Mary Dunkerly . Fathers name left blank.
Yes Mary registered the birth. It just says Mary Dunkerley mother . Glossop. No maiden name or actual address. I’m guessing he is the son of Charles Hall !