It is the one with the over-long name that I advised to give up on the fairy tale,not "who cares" who posts intelligent terse thoughts.

Blah, blah and fairy tales are responses to a simple question. I think that is game set for myself. Ignoring the question will not make it go away. Reminds me of a lesson my grandpaw told me.

"If you say something they cann't dispute, they ignore it. If you keep on saying it, they will attack you. If you persist, they will attack you while acting like there ignoring you. Until they hide because there responses show everyone they are wrong."

I have seen this many times. And if anyone looks at the responses, you will see, I'm ignored, then attacked, then acting like there ignoring me in the form of an attack.

I guess I can put your opinions as "we don't know". Well welcome to the club neither do I. But if you do find out, please post it so we all can know.

Back in October of 2008, when the subject of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility to be president of the United States was just a blip on the radar screen of public awareness, I wrote an article about how easy it was to find my then -92-year-old mother’s birth certificate.

Frankly, I didn’t think finding my mother’s birth certificate was possible, given the fact that she had been born in a farmhouse in Storrs, CT, along with nine of her 10 siblings, to parents who didn’t speak English. Despairing that she would never be “qualified” to receive the care [in a nursing home} that she desperately needed, I set about to find the document, which I was sure had vanished in the unreliable record-keeping of 1913. When I called the third number, I explained to the woman who answered the phone that I was “asking something impossible.” I gave her my mother’s first name and her father’s last name. Within four minutes, she said, “Here it is!” When I expressed my amazement, the woman said: “That’s nothing…we’re routinely asked to find birth certificates from the 1800s, and we do that all the time!” Total time it took me to find my mother’s 1913, born-in-a-farmhouse birth certificate: 10 minutes!

Obama was born not in 1913, like my mother, but in 1961—or perhaps in 1957, according to his MySpace page, which would make him 52, born supposedly in Hawaii before it became a state in 1959. So it was quite curious that not one cyber-sleuth could find an authentic, verifiable copy of his original vault copy birth certificate. I’m not talking about the faux version Obama posted on his website, which was deemed the real thing by FactCheck.org, a “truth”-detecting site that is sponsored by the Annenberg Foundation, the same foundation that hired Obama and his terrorist pal William Ayers and gave them millions of dollars for a research project in Chicago. In other words, the least credible source!

Even more significant is that no one in the media thought Obama’s missing birth certificate worth even casual mention. Their thinking seemed to be: If we’re not going to check on his eligibility to be president, then why question why the other crucial documents were—and continue to be—sealed? For instance: his baptism certificate; elementary, high school, college and graduate school transcripts; visa(s); selective service record; alleged multiple Social Security numbers; Illinois attorney’s license; Illinois State Senate records; law practice client list; Univ. of Chicago scholarly articles; financial records while a community organizer in Chicago; and medical records. I’m also curious about why Michelle Obama’s law license was suspended in 1993 by the Illinois Supreme Court, but then again she wasn’t running for president.

Instead, the media were frantically busy trying to divert public attention away from those pesky things known as credentials with gossip-driven tabloid reportage of Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber in order to avoid the bigger-than-Watergate potential scandal of whether or not Obama was eligible—according to the U.S. Constitution—to become President of the United States!

NOW WE KNOW WHY
In an explosive interview by Dr. Laurie Roth on her syndicated West Coast radio show on August 7th, Douglas Hagmann—a respected journalist, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and longtime private investigator, and Judi McLeod, a prolific journalist and the managing editor of Canada Free Press—the reason for the media blackout about the birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations but also from Federal Communication Commission officials!

According to Hagmann and McLeod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously, after Obama was elected but before he was inaugurated:

•A major TV talk-show host reported that he was ordered not to raise the birth certificate issue or risk losing his job.
•FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine “look mild” in comparison to other consequences.
•In at least one corporate TV headquarters, memos were circulated to all on-air employees not to mention the birth certificate issue, as well as other specific subjects like Obama’s Illinois lawyer’s license, his college records, etc., under both implied and explicit threats.
During the interview, Hagmann and McLeod—who never mentioned a particular network by name—alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession, copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations. But they did tantalize listeners with descriptions of meeting with “sources” outside of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City, a high-placed contact looking nervously over his shoulder, references to directives and warnings given by “those at the top,” and the undisguised threat of one executive to his underlings: “This is serious, and so will the consequences be if anyone chooses not to be a team player with this.”

This comes as no surprise to Fox watchers who have noticed that the Stalinist-style censorship of the Obama regime is already here. This couldn’t possibly be because of the healthy shares of stock the Saudis bought in Fox, could it? If so, why would the Saudis care so much about quashing potentially ****ing revelations about Obama? Have they also bought shares in Obama?

Come to think of it, who exactly paid the tuition for Obama’s stint at Harvard Law School? What role did Obama’s long-time friend, Khalid al-Mansour, a key advisor to a Saudi billionaire, play? Writer Kenneth Timmerman describes al-Mansour as “well known within the black community as a lawyer, an orthodox Muslim, a black nationalist, an author, an international deal-maker, an educator, and an outspoken enemy of Israel.” This is not to omit that al-Mansour was originally contacted to intervene with Harvard on Obama’s behalf by Percy Sutton, former Manhattan Borough President and the lawyer of Malcolm X. Ah…the tangled web of it all!

Then there is the question of what role was played by Saudi Prince Alwaleed, the nephew of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia? You remember Prince Alwaleed, who offered then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani $10 million after September 11 if he would only blame America for the terrorist attacks of which 15 of 19 perpetrators were Saudi Arabian—a “gift” the mayor promptly and with appropriate contempt rejected!

In short, what influence have the Saudis exerted on Fox to muzzle the issue of Obama’s birth certificate? I don’t ask this about the network TV channels or cable channels like CNN and MSNBC, which are still issuing daily hagiographies of Obama.

TIP OF THE ICEBERG
Just who has been sending “the message”? And how did it permeate not only the media, but also the once-respected U.S. Congress and the courts of our land, including the once-incorruptible Supreme Court? And what menacing forces made the once-courageous conservative media abandon their mission to expose rank corruption and collusion?

Two words: Money Talks!

If you’re a media mogul and you get word from the FCC that your license will be pulled immediately and irrevocably if you mention only three words—Obama’s birth certificate—poof! You send that word to your employees and tell them that their mega-salaries—in fact, their employment—are on the line.

If you’re a conservative talk-show host and you get your boss’s directive not to dare to mention only three words—Obama’s birth certificate—poof! Lips sealed; curiosity zero!

If the money thing doesn’t work, there’s always the threat thing, i.e., “going public” about tax records, health status, or family secrets. Or be audited by the IRS. Or be investigated by any number of regulatory agencies.

And if the money thing and the threat thing don’t work, how about being reminded of all those “accidents” and “unfortunate incidents”—broken kneecaps, missing children, “falls” from buildings, punctured tires—that resulted not in joblessness or embarrassment but in death?

We know that’s how the Mafia works. It’s also how political machines work. It’s also how community organizers work. Wasn’t it Obama himself who in 2008 said ’‘If They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun’‘ and in 2009 advised his followers to “Get in Their Faces!”?

So determined are Obama’s handlers to keep the facts of his parentage and place of birth out of the public domain that, as writer Chelsea Schilling has scrupulously documented, ¬†“the Federal Election Commission shows Obama’s campaign has made regular payments to Perkins Coie since Jan. 1, 2007—the month he formed a presidential exploratory committee and only weeks before he formally announced his candidacy for president—[and up to the present]—has paid Perkins Coie, a single law firm, $2.3 million…to crush eligibility lawsuits.”

But paying lawyers to quash the dozens of lawsuits that have challenged Obama’s eligibility still doesn’t answer the question of who exactly is behind the blanket blackout of the media, Congress and courts when it comes to Obama’s origins, parentage, credentials, indeed identity.

We certainly can’t attribute this massive power play to Obama himself. After all, while “owning” the Congress and the media, he is failing miserably to gain support for his two signature pieces of legislation, cap & tax and healthcare “reform.” No one that ineffectual—or, as Jonah Goldberg says, “astoundingly incompetent”—could possibly mute the media, castrate the Congress, and cow the courts.

And we can’t attribute the blackout to Obama’s union and community organizing buddies. While the former are quite expert at threatening members to fall in line…or else, and the latter have mastered standing outside polling places with glowering facial expressions and menacing Billy clubs, neither has the heft to have compelled the media to roll over, the Congress to say they “know nothing,” or the courts to load one side of the scales of justice with rocks and the other side with feathers.

A COUP D’´ETAT?
Scholars and historians have documented exhaustively the Left’s obsession with (1) the acquisition of power, and (2) transforming America from a free-market, Constitution-respecting, freedom-loving, God-embracing society into a Socialist-cum-Communist “share the wealth” collective that echoes the beliefs and “values” of their heroes Marx and Engels.

But it takes money to bring about the kind of poverty both Socialism and Communism deliver to their masses. The kind of money only a few at the top enjoy while they’d like the rest of us to wait on food lines and appear before death panels of impersonal state functionaries who decide if we’re worthy of antibiotics or surgery and, if not, convenient “go-to-sleep” pills.

The kind of money that “talks”—that can buy people off, finance revolutions, launder money, pay to rig voting machines, manipulate allies into positions of power (czars, anyone?), conveniently crash markets (as George Soros did in England in 1992, Asia in 1997, and, I believe, the U.S. in September 2008), make people disappear, make birth certificates and other vital records disappear and then make sure that an entire media, Congress and court system is terrified of “going there.”

We all know of the many multimillionaires and billionaires—including Soros, the Saudi royal family, et al—who contributed to Obama’s presidential campaign and continue to fund his leftist agenda, all of them with an ideological, religious, or personal stake in his remaining in power. And all of them part of a larger, more ubiquitous conspiracy—yes, conspiracy!—to conceal Obama’s origins and true parentage.

Among them, as JB Williams has documented, are “international socialists working through CPUSA - SPUSA and DSAUSA, funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations. Here’s a short list of the BIGGEST leftist front groups: America Coming Together - Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - Media Fund - Service Employees International Union - American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees - MoveOn.org - New Democrat Network - Sierra Club - EMILY’s List - AFL-CIO - League of Conservation Voters.”

Further, Williams asks: “Who spends an obscene $1-billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000-per-year job, and why?”


Richard Poe, award-winning journalist and New York Times-bestselling author, has written extensively on Soros and makes a good case that the Hungarian-born Jew and self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama—and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a “regime change” in the United States.

“What about our country offends Soros so deeply,” Poe asked, “that he would tell the BBC—during a time of war—that he means to use all of his power to `puncture the bubble of American supremacy’? Poe explained that Soros’s Open Society Foundation, founded in 1984, “has spent millions promoting a radical agenda that includes abortion, feminism, gun control, abolition of capital punishment, voting rights for felons, drug legalization, euthanasia and gay marriage rights…the Soros cult preaches secularism, the godless faith of a world without nations, families, loyalty or tradition, a world in which the very words `mother,’ `father,’ `husband,’ `wife,’ `son’ and `daughter’ will be bleached of meaning forever.”

Soros, Poe continued, “is one of the world’s leading promoters of euthanasia, or `mercy killing.’ Not only does he advocate `physician-assisted suicide’ for patients who choose death voluntarily, he also lobbies for the right of family members or court-appointed guardians to authorize the killing of patients whose wishes are not known.” Sounds a lot like the Death Panels Sarah Palin warned about, doesn’t it? Soros also founded the Project on Death in America [which] promotes suicide and euthanasia and urges doctors to warehouse terminally ill patients in hospices and give them `palliative’ care ...rather than wasting time, energy and money actually trying to cure them.”

Of course, all of these beliefs are eerily echoed in Obama’s healthcare legislation, almost as if Soros had dictated the terms. Maybe he did! Maybe that was the price he exacted for financing a large part of Obama’s presidential campaign and facilitating the cover-up of Obama’s birth certificate and other documents. And maybe that’s why Obama is still paying Soros back by recently announcing that he will invest $2 billion (or more) in drilling for oil off the shores of Brazil, where none other than George Soros owns $5.8 million of the Brazilian oil company’s U.S.-traded preferred shares of stock!

THE USUAL SUSPECTS
While Soros may top the list of conspirators who have been trying to topple big bad capitalist America for decades, others figure prominently as well, including but not limited to: Noam Chomsky, Louis Farrakhan,,Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, Cornel West, Ted Turner, former National Security Advisor to Pres. Jimmy Carter Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Rockefeller family, The Carnegie family, and, I might add, Fidel Castro and the cozy cabal of America-loathing Marxist revolutionaries he met with at the Theresa Hotel in Harlem.

Then there are: The Congressional Progressive Caucus (their members here) aka the Democratic Socialists of America, formed by partners from the Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA (Founder: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VA); The Congressional Black Caucus (their members here), originally established and controlled by the Communist Party USA (Founder: Cong. John Conyers (D-VT), and now controlled by ACORN and The Democratic Socialists of America; The ACLU, founded in 1917 by Communist Roger Baldwin; The Southern Poverty Law Center—a mini ACLU; The FORD Foundation; The Annenberg Foundation; The NAACP; The Council on Foreign Relations; The Trilateral Commission; numerous labor unions, and of course the mega-rich sheiks of Araby.

While all of the above and many others have worked assiduously to dismantle America, there are probably only a relative handful of aiders and abettors who ushered the modern-day Trojan Horse Barack Obama into America’s body politic and were sophisticated and connected and rich and arch enough to have facilitated his path to the U.S. Senate, sealed all of his records both home and abroad, assembled the massive¬†organization for his run for the presidency, and delivered in only seven months the most radical leftwing—actually more Communist than Socialist—agenda in the history of the United States.

WHO’S NOT CAVING ON THE BC ISSUE?
McLeod and Hagmann have come very close to explaining a major piece of the conspiracy puzzle, specifically how some in the media were either bribed or threatened into silence vis-√†-vis Obama’s birth certificate. But the American people have a peculiar resistance to and revulsion for these thuggish tactics. In fact, the birth certificate issue has gained momentum. Why is it not going away but instead gathering steam?

1. The huge amount of money Obama has spent on this cover-up is, to most Americans, fishy.

2. Obama’s serial apologies for America as he travels the world have offended Americans and convinced them that no genuine American could or would ever behave in such a way.

3. Last month, when Army Reserve Major Stefan Frederick Cook sued Obama claiming he was not legally qualified to be President and Commander-in-Chief and therefore was unqualified to give him orders to deploy to Afghanistan, the government rescinded his orders, thereby negating the “standing” Cook no doubt would have had to sue. District Judge Richard Lazzara of Tampa denied Cook’s motions as “frivolous and wholly without merit” and then—guess what?—sealed the records! This should have disqualified the judge. In fact, it raised the eyebrows of millions of Americans.

4. To the public, rescinding Cook’s orders was a de facto admission that Obama is not a natural-born American citizen, and it gives rise to the possibility that untold numbers of military enlistees, in the U.S. and around the world, will follow suit. According to one source, as many as 100 lawyers are preparing to file such litigation and even class-action suits are being considered.

As Obama’s poll numbers continue to plunge, more and more people are waking up to his unique lack of qualifications and inability to lead the greatest nation in the world. As Kyle-Ann Shiver has written, “It’s as though [in 2008] 59 million Americans joined hands and shouted at the top of their little lungs, `Yes, We Can March off This Cliff.’”

Writer James Lewis asks: “How do we fight Obama and his psychopathic lust for power?”...and answers: “You fight evil by exposing it.””

Indeed, the American electorate has never been so energized, with millions upon millions of ordinary citizens—many of them seniors with vested interests in avoiding Obama’s death panels—attending Tea Parties, Town Hall meetings, and writing and calling their representatives in massive numbers. In addition, people are now speaking openly about the man without a birth certificate. Who is this guy? What is he hiding? Why are media people studiously avoiding this issue? And why are those who “dare” raise it—like Lou Dobbs at CNN—being targeted by far-left groups, many of them funded by George Soros?

Yet in spite of their efforts to conceal the truth about Obama’s birth place and parentage, increasing numbers of articles, radio hosts and their callers and regular Americans have lost their amazingly forbearing patience and are now asking and will continue to ask until the question is answered: WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?


I find it amusing that a newspaper in anothr country see's this as a issue to run multible stories that actualy investigates it, while our own just brush it off. Maybe the media strong arm mentioned above doesn't reach as far as canada.

These people are seriously ill. They are probably former UFO enthusiasts. Listen: Both Hawaiian Newspapers had contemporaneous accounts of Obama’a birth. There’s simply no explaining that in any way other than Obama was born in Hawaii just like he says.

Yes, probably media supervisors have reined in wingnuts on their staffs who might want to publicize these loony theories. They have likely done so for the sake of accuracy because there’s no credible proof for any of it. No one with a lick of sense would continue to believe this craziness after they saw that the newspapers announced his birth when he was born.

It’s not coincidental that a thread devoted to the discussion of Fox would lead to a birther convention. People who watch Fox generally lack critical thinking skills. They will apparently believe anything. Witness that h...m rants in his diatribe about “Obama’s death panels.” Anyone who has a source of knowledge other than Fox news knows that there are and never have been any death panels or proposals for death panels. The death panel story was simply a lie made up by the bimbo Palin.

First of all I am no "birther". This Congress has already abandoned the Constitution so I don't care one way or the other.

I do find it strange that both Hawaiian Newspapers had "contemporaneous accounts" of Obama’a birth, but they can not produce a copy of his original birth certificate.

Why was his birth such a significant event that it rated coverage in both newspapers at that time but there was no birth certificate recorded?

So tom...you believe that:

Obama fooled the FBI, Justice Dept., DOD AND Secret Service as they were vetting him for the highest security clearance in the land. Is that what you believe Tom?

Why do you think that these cases are ending up being dismissed right & left?

The certificate & announcement have been put forth. Too bad you poo poo all the sources because they don't back up your agenda.

One more fact....Obama has produced EVERY document that the courts have asked...has he not?

It's one thing to bash the president's policies, but to grasp on to such a far fetched, B.S., conspiracy theory born out of partisan bitterness....well, that's just pathetic & you & Norman must be the Pres. & VP of the looney-bird club! I've always known that Alderman doesn't play with a full deck but whomever you are tom....you should be sharing a room at the asylum with Alderman!

I haven't seen a copy of his original birth certificate. Why would I believe the FBI the CIA or any other government agency. Like you said he was given the highest security clearance in the land and he still lies. So what would keep the others from lying?

Why would you be in a position to see anyone,s original Birth certificate? How do you know that the president lies? And are you the paragon of truthfulness, all virtue?

How do I know that the president lies. It isn't difficult. Just listen to him. He lies constantly.

Name one. Your lies? You just wrote one,but that is your right , which you abuse nearly everyday.

Why are the koolaid drinkers so offended when asked for something so simple. Obama said he legal, so you blind followers should be fine with him releasing his birth certificate. And I might add both newspapers both got the wrong address in those birth announcements. Apparently the people who built the house and live at that address, don't remember a back and white couple with a kid living there. Must be a mistake on both newspapers.
If your legal it should be a simple soulution, not a 2 million dollar solution.

Stop being offensive to kool aid which has some vitamin C in it. Stop repeating birther blurbs which have been proven false:the address and all information aout OBama s, birth are accurate , true, well known.Your fairy tales will continue, though,but could you not come up with a new one? Get Rush to help you.

The obama supporters are scared. Fear of being lied to is a huge incentinve to accept anything. If the shoe was on the othr foot, then they would be screaming bloody murder. Like they do with the 9/11 attacks, katrena. He's hiding something. The only people that even remotely support obama fight in courts are his hardcore supporters. I watched the cspan coverage when the senate announced he was born there. No documents were presented, but a rep from the voting committee. I read where when they announced Mccain was born american, he produced a stack of documents. Even his dad's records. Nothing was showed like that for obama.

And you people screaming the newspaper announcements, Fox covered that. The guy living there at the time was Orland Scott Lefforge a professor at the local college. And the family said obama didn't live there. So that shows someone is lieing about something right there. That is enough evidence to make your head turn. There are more people who think he's hiding something than don't.

www.theobamafile.com has all the dirt on him. Some of you need to go read the whole thing.

And another thing, why is it racist to ask obama to clear all this stuff up. Just because he's black doesn't give him a free ride.

You said, "Just because he's black doesn't give him a free ride".

Sure it does. Most blacks are looking for a free ride. They think they deserve it. That's why they voted for Obama. They want to share in the wealth. They just don't want to work for it.
Did you not see them on TV standing in line waiting for their free Obama money.

I think alot of these comments should be deleted. Who cares, higher ground, and others need deleted. I take offense to be calling a racist, killer, moron, and idiot. As a tea party supporter, I take offense at tea baggers which is a sexual term. It's bad enough i hear it on all the news channels except fox. I do not want to see it here. My kids might read it. I don't allow them to watch those news channels nor will I allow them to read this trash. If you cann't stop yourself from name calling then I think they need to be banned. If you can not act like an adult then you should not be allowed to post here.

How utterly bigoted, untrue,rednecked, can you get?

Perfect example above. The mods meed to clean this thread up.

Tea bagger sexual? What about Tom,Stink, Hmmm and their onesided posts which are merely being answered. Both "Higher Ground" and "Who Cares" write fair, reasonable responses to the trinity of birther propagandists mentioned.

A professor of what? The other day, it was an octogenerian couple that built the house and still live in it.Street names and numbers change,all is well all is truthful as OBama and supporters aver. MCain was not born in the U.S. but is considered American because his father was serving in the Navy in Panama . This makes McCain a citizen, although the constitution does not explicitly state so.I am plesed with the decision.

Lets see it the mods, and administration will be as fast to delete derogatory comments like assassins, racist and calling people dumb as they were to delete comments like baby killers.

Rule one: don't come on here with a take down attitude of the owner or admin.

I read a funny article today. Since most of the probama's are watching this thread I though I would share.


If George W. Bush was an idiot...


If George W. Bush had been the first
President to need a teleprompter
installed to be able to get through a
press conference, would you have
laughed and said this is more proof of
how inept he is on his own and is
really controlled by smarter men
behind the scenes?

If George W. Bush had spent
hundreds of thousands of dollars to
take Laura Bush to a play in NYC,
would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had reduced your
retirement plan's holdings of GM stock
by 90% and given the unions a
majority stake in GM, would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had made a joke
at the expense of the Special
Olympics, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given Gordon
Brown a set of inexpensive and
incorrectly formatted DVDs, when
Gordon Brown had given him a
thoughtful and historically significant
gift, would you have approved?

If George W. Bush had given the
Queen of England an iPod containing
videos of his speeches, would you
have thought this embarrassingly
narcissistic and tacky?

If George W. Bush had bowed to the
King of Saudi Arabia , would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had visited Austria
and made reference to the
non-existent "Austrian language,"
would you have brushed it off as a
minor slip?

If George W. Bush had filled his
cabinet and circle of advisers with
people who cannot seem to keep
current in their income taxes, would
you have approved?

If George W. Bush had been so
Spanish illiterate as to refer to "Cinco
de Cuatro" in front of the Mexican
ambassador when it was the 5th of
May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued
to flub it when he tried again, would
you have winced in embarrassment?

If George W. Bush had mis-spelled
the word "advice" would you have
hammered him for it for years like Dan
Quayle and potatoe as proof of what a
dunce he is?

If George W. Bush had burned 9,000
gallons of jet fuel to go plant a
single tree on Earth Day, would you
have concluded he's a hypocrite?

If George W. Bush's administration
had okayed Air Force One flying low
over millions of people followed by a
jet fighter in downtown Manhattan
causing widespread panic, would you
have wondered whether they actually
get what happened on 9-11?

If George W. Bush had failed to send
relief aid to flood victims throughout
the Midwest with more people killed or
made homeless than in New Orleans ,
would you want it made into a major
ongoing political issue with claims of
racism and incompetence?

If George W. Bush had created the
position of 32 Czars who report directly
to him, bypassing the House and
Senate on much of what is happening
in America , would you have
approved?

If George W. Bush had ordered the
firing of the CEO of a major
corporation, even though he had no
constitutional authority to do so,
would you have approved?

If George W Bush had proposed to
double the national debt, which had
taken more than two centuries to
accumulate, in one year, would you
have approved?

If George W. Bush had then proposed
to double the debt again within 10
years, would you have approved?

So, tell me again, what is it about
Obama that makes him so brilliant and
impressive? Can't think of anything?
Don't worry. He's done all this in 5
months -- so you'll have three years
and seven months to come up with an
answer.


It just drips with irony

Political hackery at its lowest levelis the Hummer offering : The teleprompter part is especially juvenile. Our president is a village idiot of Kenya?Do you not claim that he was born there but was smuggled into the US? Did he go back, then, to play the part of the village idiot?
Crude,unkind remarks can be original and creative,can,t they?

No cruder than calling anyone an assassin. Or idiotic for asking a president that we are suppose to be the boss of to supply a BC when anyone has a doubt.

I have never said he was from Kenya. I think it's because his race is labeled as white, or some stupid thing as that. I think he's a anchor baby at worse. Maybe it's what quote said, that if the BC is cleared up, the duel citizenship issue will come to light.

I just like playing the devil's advocate. Plus I think it's funny and rather pathetic to see some of you articulates defend him spending millions to hide it. It shows you really who the political suck up are really. Most of you are so political bias, you gag at anything a Republican does, but swallows everything a Democrat does and ask for seconds. It's really funny actually. I have a ball, and yes I feed the fire so I can sit back and laugh. And it kills some of you, you have to come out and defend your party. Kinda like dangling a piece of meat in front of a dog, it's funny. You will have a happier life when you figure out there both corrupt.

And administrator I think that dr pepper is talking about is the stem cell thread last week. The baby killer comment of there's being deleted.

You know what? I'm letting these political threads just run wild. You folks feel free to call each other what ever. Be idiots if you feel like it. My email is E-tater@hotmail.com. If you feel like you may get out of hand, email me and I'll be happy to ban you. -Administrator

I bet Who Cares will be the first in line when Obama says, "Okay followers it is now time to step up and get your Kool-Aid"

He is really sucking up all of the democrat's socialist propaganda.

There is a low calorie KoolAde which may interest you. It has lots of Vitamin C which is good for us all.

Watch Fox News Sunday night at 9:00 for a special report. They will be addressing who Obama really is and I believe the birth certificate thing will be addressed as well.

It's amazing how some people defend everything that Obama does and still try to blame everything on George W. Bush.
The democrats were in control of Congress since 2006. They are just as responsible for the economic mess that we are now in as G.W. Bush. Obama and Biden were in the Senate.

All spending bills originate in the House of Representives not with the President.

"Pleased", not" plesed". . I get annoyed by mistakes in spelling made by others, especially those who send out the toxic viewpoints. But then I make spelling errors myself which I should have caught at once.Hubris ,maybe?

I have to disagree with you comment Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Your more of a galvanizer. I'm the devil's advocate. I believe Barry was born in HI. However he's hiding it so the duel citizenship issue will stay undiscussed. Keep the radar on his BC and no one will get around to question his multi-citizenships. I figure his college transcript is labeled as American, and British or Indonesian. Ever office from senator to Governor has had laws passed to that says if that office can be occupied by a person who is or had another citizenship other than American. Arnold had to go to court over that exact thing. Of course the law was passed in the 1920's for duel citizenships while in the governors office. And he still had to go to court. The presidency has never had a case of this. They have had people with duel citizenship, but those people did not have a chance to become president, and it was never brought up. That is the only reason why I read anything from the birthers. Because the duel citizenship started the birther movement. When burg first started this, it was a duel citizenship angle. Because Barry admitted in one of his books, that he was both an American and British citizen at birth. What other reason would he fight these BC cases. I doubt they could pull off fooling everyone. You know there are people out there in the HI office that would turn in his BC if he wasn't legal. That is a million bucks cash.

I'm not a "Birther" but a "duelist". I have fun with the blind adherent. I love to get them fired up over there loyalty for a party. I just like giving them a easy question like "why" that they can not make themselves admit he's at fault. He's the reason for all this. Yet they faithfully follow come what may. And it shows the true nature of a person. Calling a person names, even if you disagree shows low moral character. They may hide there nature, but it eventually comes out. There parents should have taught them better. And usually there parents also suffer from the same ailment. That is why I'm very pro freedom of speech. Even racist speech. It shows there nature faster, and clearer. Speech should never be hindered. Even lies eventually come out.

I hope someday that they will wise up and figure out that both parties are corrupt. Sure there are honest ones in each, but there very, very rare. When I vote most times it's for the lesser of 2 evils. Because none has my exact beliefs, and concerns. I vote for character, honesty, and beliefs. I think the party system is a bane. People believe in the party instead of what is right and wrong. And there party even when found guilty, will just say "they did it too"; instead of seeing there both wrong.

So I guess I'm guilty too of stoking the fires of tension. But I love to show a persons nature. It's so easy. I honestly don't think this will ever be resolved. If this was any other candidate it would have been resolved by now. But since he is black, every opponent are racist. Right and wrong, legal and illegal are colorless. If Barry was ever announced as not being eligible to be president. The nation would collapse. Dems for acting out the falsehood, and Reps for allowing it. Total meltdown. To me it would almost be a good thing. Maybe then people would understand that the party system is a bad thing, and we should vote for people according to what they stand for. However the UN might come in and take over. That is possible, might even give us to China for undue bills. So no I seriously doubt this issue will be resolved. But I do think years from now it will come out. When all people involved are dead.

So I guess I'm guilty too of stoking the fires of political sides. But I love to show a persons true nature. It's so easy. Bethink, and make no mistake, I'm a "Duelist"

On a side note.

Election Results So Bad Obama's Senior Adviser Went On Fox News.

Just how bad for Obama were Tuesday's election results?

So bad White House senior adviser David Axelrod went on Fox News Wednesday to try and spin it?

In case you've forgotten, this is about two weeks after Axelrod told ABC's George Stephanopoulos, "They're not really a news station."

I guess that's changed now that the Republicans have come back to life

Well, I guess the Administration NEEDS Fox again, huh?



Like the old saying "The man said the robber the reason he robs banks. The robber said that's where the money is."

Maybe Axle figures he should go on Fox becasue they actually have viewers. Would have been funny if Fox would have declined. Could you see the headline. "They're not really a administration" Kinda shows who the bigger persons are. Nah.

If bush is a idiot, then obama is a total braindead idiot.

Yesterday at the Fort hood press conference, he has the nerve to talk about the the indian conference. All happy and giggly. Must be because a brother killed some soldiers no doubt. Then Obama Gives Shout Out to Congressional Medal of Honor Winner. the dangers of giving shout outs without a teleprompter. Crow is not a Medal of Honor recipient.
He was, however, awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, in August.

Obama, often described as "cerebral". My ass he is. Bush would never act so bad in a desaster press conference.

Hey dumb ass, you don’t “shout out” to a Congressional Medal Winner, you salute. HE DIDN’T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE HE DOES NOT CARE AND DOES NOT RESPECT AMERICA OR HER HIGHEST HONORS.

Also calls him a Congressional Medal of Honor winner, apparently not knowing that decorations for valor are awarded, not "won". Then again he doesn't know proper flag/national anthem protocol either, preferring the 2 handed ball grab to the hand on heart thingy.

How petty can we be on this crisp Nov. morning?Our president is professional and dignified at public occasions.

The petty, partisan, hatred is alive & well on this board & on display for all to see. Obama could end both wars tomorrow, find a cure for cancer, find a way to run govn't without taxes & still, some of these bitter, partisan, clowns would gripe about what cereal he eats for breakfast! The people you see on display here are so full of their petty, party, politics that secretly, they have to sit around & hope things go bad in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. See, if Obama is successful, the economy turns around, we start pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan starts turning around, then they have little chance of defeating Obama in 2012. Therefore, they sit back quietly hoping things will go bad for the president so that they can put a republican back in office.

Just look at at the vitrol they spew towards our president & he's only been in office 9 months. Bush spent 8 years running this great country into the ground & the right expects him to solve all our problems in 9 months. Sure would be nice, but ain't gonna happen. That's what politics has decayed to in this country on BOTH sides!

Thanks for the compliment quote, I think

Here is the whole video.



I don't usually comment on people who make speeches in public. Becuse when in front of alot of people I think I act like a mentially challanged person. But being articulate as obama is labeled. He screwed the pooch on that one. Even if he was addressing many topics this massive killing could have been placed above his "shout out. I am shocked and very disappointed by Obama's utter lack of tact here - he gives a "shoutout" to someone and talks lightly about Indian affairs issues BEFORE addressing the shooting? Incompetence at its worst. I think the worst is that he does not look into the camera but a few times in 5 minutes. He gives off a "could care less" attitude. His stock in my book is falling very very low.

I'm just suprised that he didn't try to blame the whole thing on George W. Bush.

That's their excuse for everything.

It's been over 9 months since Bush left office and the unemployment rate is now 10.2%. How long are they going to try to blame Bush for Obama's incompetence?

you can bet one thing, if unemployment was down he would take the credit but since its up he'll just let bush keep taking credit.