Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.

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Re: upper range help

I'm not sure if I'm at Whistle yet, but the exercises are definitely helping (the Hoo falsetto has really helped a lot with the second break)! Does whistle generally start at C5, or is it more of the G5 bridge? I've been stuck at G5 for the last year and can hit it in falsetto at karaoke, but it takes a lot of warming up even then, and I can't do it with strong adduction. There is a lot of talk about "vocal flageolet", particularly in the CVT terminology- but it's not really clear if that is reinforced falsetto or something else, and it also does not mention what pitch in Scientific Notation that would start at. I have RYV 2, which did clarify some things though, so the path to the finish line is coming more and more into view, and I've managed not to accumulate any vocal damage along the way, so that's not too shabby. :)

Re: upper range help

Flageolet is whistle. Mine starts around D6. I doubt yours would be starting at Tenor C or even G5 above. This just means you still have room to expand.

Re: upper range help

What I find confusing about the definition of Flageolet is that the CVT book talks about using it below C5 too loudly, which it says creates a split in the voice.

At C5 or just before, I feel something change- the pharyngeal tone takes over- and this is what I was thinking was Flageolet, but is probably just the start of pure M2 (or the closest thing to it).