Right, this is just one example of another direction of grit. I don't mean to say this is the tone for me I'm just curious about being able to control the tone more. If I'm understanding you correctly are you saying to find the desired tone sans grit and then add the grit as needed? essentially blending your clean tone with x amount of grit? Also I recently checked out your high scream post, nicely done!

Yes. But you should practice all screams and tones in like a breathy falsetto first. This is how most people imitate screams and tones who even have no vocal training.

Grit should also be practiced separately.

Then when you have enough muscle memory you can commit to doing the tone in full/mixed voice and then after feeling good about that, add some grit.

When first doing screaming my soft pallet felt sort of like stiff cardboard. And I actually got a little sharp pain a few times because it was like the first time it ever really moved. BUT I was very cautious and slowed down and kept rethinking the pain to make sure I wasn't damaging myself. Basically after the first day I never had it again and there was no soreness.

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As for learning different tones, screams, and grits you should check out Jaime's ScreamingLessons.com

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Thanks about the high screams but they aren't that good. That was my first time screaming and I maxed at A#5 a couple of times there, but didn't have many tones or good mask/head resonance.

Now my max is easily at D#6 when screaming and I have more tones and resonance.

The important thing is I had fun and you should too or practicing gets boring.

Great, thanks!