Looking for a marriage of a William Eyre born 1785/1786 Burial 24 Oct 1848 age 61 Wentworth Yorkshire he married a Martha do not know her maiden name born abt 1794 Sheffield died 1864 age 70 Kimberworth St Thomas Church Rotherham
I found a birth for a William Eyre 1786 in Derbyshire could this be the William I am looking for. I was told by my family the Eyre family came from Derbyshire

1841 Census Alderthwaite
Wm 50 , Yorkshire
Martha 40 Yorkshire
Thos 21, Mark 20, born Yorkshire cannot find a birth on these.
John 16, Sarah Ann 14, Edwin 12, Henry 9 Charles 6 ( My 3x gr grandfather) Baptised Wentworth Church.
I was wondering if Thomas & Mark had a different mother & born outside the area from the other children.
Hope you can help
Jenny Clarke

Hi Jennifer

Might not be relevant but theres a Baptism for ;

Mark Eyre, Born 15 Aug 1821, Baptised 18 Sep 1821, Belper, Derbyshire (Wesleyan Methodist)
Father William, Mother Ann

Date fits for the Mark on the 1841 census (and its the only Mark Eyre of the right age I can find so far) - so it could be that William was married before, given that hes a bit older than Martha!

Denise

Edit:

Their address on the Baptism record is Codnor in the Parish of Heanor, Derbyshire and Williams occupation was a Frame Work Knitter

Denise

There’s a mention of William’s death in the Sheffield Independent of 28 October 1848:
On Sunday, at Alderfit, aged 61, Mr William Eyre. He had been employed by Messrs. Graham, about 21 years.

Searching for this company they seemed to have the Milton Iron Works which was near Alderthwaite.

Heths.

Hi Jennifer, There is a marriage of William Eyre to Ann Bradshaw 8 October 1810 Sutton on the Hill, Derbyshire.

The William Eyre who was the framework knitter might be this one in Easington in 1861 ?
Thornley Colliery - William Eyre, age 76, retired stocking weaver, born Heanor Derbyshire.
In the 1851 census he also has a son Mark with him, who was born Codnor.
That Mark was age 22 though (= birth ca 1829.)

Heths

A possibility? -

First name(s) William
Last name Eyre
Name note -
Marriage year 1826
Marriage date 14 Nov 1826
Marriage place Brotherton
Father's last name Eyre
Spouse's first name(s) Martha
Spouse's last name Lidster
Spouse's age -
Residence Brotherton, York, England

He is a waterman, she is spinster. He signs, she makes mark.

G:slightly_smiling_face:

Hi Denise thank you for that information.

I researched that avenue William Eyre born 1784 married Ann Ward 1803 Heanor.
William was Coalminer between 1831 1841 William & Ann moved to Durham with 2 sons Mark 1821/1826 Belper died 1854 burial 2 Jan Durham & Joseph abt 1821 according to 1841 census Houghton Le Spring Ann died between 1841 & 1851 William married a Margaret according too the 1851 census I do not know what happend to Margaret in 1861 census he had married a Mary Ann living in Thornley Durham she was a retired Stocking Weaver.So this is not my family.

Also there were a marriage 1826 Brotherton between a William Eyre born 1806 York died 1880 Hook Goole to a Martha Lister/Lidster born 1805/1810 died 1890 Hooke Goole he was a Waterman so this is not my family.

The marriage 1810 between William Eyre & a Martha Bradshaw she would have been 15/16yrs old this is my grandmother was born 1795 Sheffield burial Oct Qtr 1864 age 70 in Kimberworth Rotherham. she died at my 2xgr grandfathers Charles house.

Mark 21 Alderthwaite died 24 April 1842 at the Milton Iron Works he was a Fitter ( Death Certificate in Decline) burial 27 April Wentworth
William Eyre born 1786 died 22 Oct 1848 burial 24 Oct 1848 Wentworth died if Typhus Fever at the Milton Iron Works ( Puddler) in attendance at the death a William Hartley ( Death Certificate)

Jenny Clarke

Hi Heather,
Thank you so much for that information on my 3xgr grandfather William Eyre.

You have got it right he did work at he Milton Iron Works he was a Puddler he died 22 Oct 1848 of Typhus at the Milton Iron Works burial 24 Oct 1848 Wentworth ( Death Certificate) also His son Mark died of Decline at the Milton Iron Works died 24 April 1842 Burial 27 April 1842 Wentworth he was a Fitter( Death Certificate )they were buried in the same grave also in the same grave was William,s daughter Sarah Ann died April 1852 in Milton.I have visited the grave in Wentworth.
Martha born 1795 Sheffield died 1864 age 70 Kimberworth Rotherham she died at my 2xgr
grandfather Charles House.

Was William born in Derbyshire or Yorkshire in my DNA it says I am connected to Derbyshire If William was at the Milton Iron Works for 21 Years his sons Thomas age 20 & Mark age 21 in 1841 census were they born in Derbyshire or Yorkshire

Thank You
Jenny Clarke

Hi Barry
Thanks for that information William Eyre was born 1786 died 1848 age 61 at the Milton Iron Works ( Death Certificate) ( Puddler )Martha was born 1795 Sheffield died Oct Qtr 1864 Kimberworth Rotherham age 70.
If Martha Bradshaw married 8 Oct 1810 my William Eyre she would be only 15/16years old.

Thank You
Jenny Clarke

Hi Geoffrey,
Thank you for that information.
This not my family I have researched this information

William Eyre born 1806 York died 1880 Hook Goole married 1826 Brotherton (Waterman )Martha Lister/Lidster born 2 June 1810 Bapt 8 July 1810 Brotherton died 1890 Hook Goole

1841 census Walmsgate Yorkshire Navigation Road
1861 Captain Vessel Inocence Yorks
1871 Hooke Goole Bridge Terrace (Boatman)
1881 Martha Widow Dougherty Yard Hook Goole

Thank You
Jenny Clarke

Hello,

There is quite a lot on the web about the Eyres in Derbyshire, right back into the twelfth century: some qualified as gentry (notably the 'foresters') and others just as yeomen. Some Eyres migrated into Hallamshire and the Penistone area in the 16th century, and not many retained the status they formerly had; but I should think all the Yorkshire Eyres would have had Derbyshire roots. It's certainly an interesting family to follow.

:slightly_smiling_face: Geoffrey.

Hi Geoffrey,
Thank You for the information on they Eyre family,
I seem to be still at a brick wall with my Mark Eyre 1821- 1842 & his brother Thomas Eyre 1820 I should imagine they were Baptised somewhere & who was their mother was it Martha or someone else.

I Have searched Sheffield indexers found nothing. My mother use to say when we visited Sheffield she said dad,s family lived at the back of the old police station & C&A Store also not far from the hole in the road shops.
I cannot visit the local archives in Sheffield as I now live south of Perth Australia.

It will have to be back to researching on the computer

Many Thanks
Jenny Clarke

Hi Jenny,

Do you have a 1911 census for your Sheffield Eyre family that we could maybe work back to
where you want to be.

Have you looked at Family Search........

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Hi Elaine,
Lovely to hear from you again I contacted you a few years ago wanting information on the Kilner family from Hoylandswaine Jonas Senior married Ann Kilner their daughter was related to you it was my mom,s family. She was a Senior & you were very kind to give me so much information on the family thank you for that.

This is my dads family
John Arthur Eyre born 1915 Platts Common Hoyland died 1974 Rotherham married 1943 Wombwell to Annie Senior 1917 Wombwell died 1990 Rotherham.

Father of John
(My grandfather)

Charles William Eyre born 1888 Kimberworth Rotherham died 1917 Rotherham married 1913 Hoyland Florence May Johnson born 1894 Rotherham died 1975 Hoyland she also married 1939 Thomas Alfred Penton born 1899 died 1977 Hoyland

Father of Charles
(Gr grandfather )
Edwin born 1858 Masborough died 1937 Rotherham married 1880 Masborough Emily Wordsworth born 1857 Kimberworth Rotherham died 1912 in Masborough.

Father of Edwin
(My 2x gr grandfather)

Charles born 1835 Alderthwaite baptised Wentworth died 1903 Rotherham married 1858 Rotherham Parish Church Emma Batley 1837 Silkstone Barnsley died 1909 Rotherham.
At that time Aldertwaite & Wentworth came under Wath upon Dearne (Barnsley)

Father of Charles
(My 3xgr grandfather)

William born abt 1785/1786 died 22 Oct 1848 age 61 at his works the Milton Iron Works Death Certificate) married a Martha she was born abt 1795 burial 1864 age 70 St Thomas Church Kimberworth .

I am researching the 2 older boys Thomas 1819/1820 & Mark 1821 died 1842 at Milton Iron Works I am trying to find who their mother was I thought they might have been Baptised in Sheffield Cathedral

I would be grateful on any information on them.

Thank You
Jenny

And Hi again,

You set you problem out beautifully...

I had started looking at it and nothing was jumping out at me.

I do wonder if they were Methodists and that's why I had thought of the LDS.

I am sure our super sleuths will have another go at the problem.

Take care.

Elaine.

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I was just re visiting my scribbles from yesterday.

The last four children listed on the 1841 census including your Charles were all baptised
at Old Holy Trinity, Wentworth. A new church was built in 1878.

That leaves Thos 21, Mark 29, and John 16 missing from those baptisms I checked on FreeReg
for Holy Trinity.

Maybe they have not been transcribed.

I also noted the there is a Mark Eyre who died in 1842. In Hoyland. aged 22.

FreeBMD.
Deaths Jun 1842
EYRE Mark Ecclesfield 22 108

Would Hoyland be covered by the Ecclesfield Registration district?

No further luck at finding a marriage between William and Martha. Could Thomas, Mark and John be children of Martha in a previous marriage. Just another scenario.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Hi Elaine.
Thank you again for the information the Mark Eyre who died in 1842 age 22 is my Mark Eyre & yes Hoyland came under Ecclesfield registration I have his death certificate & it stated William was his father who was a Puddler.They were both buried in the old church yard Wentworth.I have seen the gravestone.

In the Sheffield Independent Newspaper on his death reported on 28 Oct 1848 it states William Eyre who worked for Messers Graham for 21 Years at the Milton Iron Works the boys must have been born in the area especially John. Thomas & Mark could have come into the Sheffield area as babies after William,s wife had died.

I am thinking could William & his sons Mark, & John come from Derbyshire & possibly he was married before, My dad told me the Eyre family came from Derbyshire & my DNA says I have relatives connected to Derbyshire.

Thank You
Jenny

Hi Jenny,

The 1841 census says the whole family were born in county.
I see that Thomas was a cutler in that census. I can’t find him in the 1851, this could be his burial:

23 May 1844, Sheffield St Peter & Paul.
Thomas Eyre, cutler, Hammond St. Age 26.

That would put his year of birth ca 1818.
It might be interesting to get the death certificate to see who registered the death, that might give a clue.

Heths

Hi Heather,
Thank you for that information I have been researching Thomas Eyre why we could not find him in the 1851 census I found a Thomas Eyre from Rotherham who was in & out of prison from the York Courts

1843 3rd July Larceny 6 Months
1854 Riot & Assalt
1855 Receiving Stolen Goods 6 months
1860 6 July Larceny 4 months
1862 10 Dec Rape 10 years
1876 6 April Unlawfully Wounding 6 months
1878 4 July Assalting a Police Officer Not Guilty
Do you think this is the Thomas I am looking for.

I also found a Thomas Eyre Transported 29 June 1864 Transported on the Merchantman he got 10 years.
Let me know what you think on this.

Thank You
Jenny Clarke

Hi Jenny,

I found the following:

1855 stolen goods - newspaper says he was a cutlery manufacturer aged 50.
1860 larceny - newspaper report says he was a boy aged 17.
1862 rape case - the a newspaper report says that he was 21 years old.
1876 unlawful wounding - prison record says he was a police officer aged 27.
1878 assault - prison record for when he was awaiting trial at the Rotherham Sessions says he was a blade grinder aged 30.

So happily none of those would have been your Thomas as the ages were wrong.
I couldn’t turn up any extra information about the two earliest cases though.

Heths

PS - The record for the 1864 transportation says he’d been committed at York Assizes in December 1862.
Report in the Yorkshire Gazette says that a Thomas Eyre was in the Winter Gaol Delivery that month for rape, so that might have been the one transported.

Heths

Hi Heather.
Thank you so much for all your information you have found. I am disappointed none of the Thomas Eyre I had found was my family I thought I had cracked some information on Thomas you could be right on a possible on the information you found a death for him 23 May 1844 age 26.
Will look into this.

Thank You
Jenny

At first I thought it might be the same William Eyre I have been following recently for a friend. However he was born 1767 Loversall near Doncaster.The family moved to Wadworth in the early 1800 and eventually to Sheffield Heeley around the 1850's