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Busking ?

Hello Everybody,
Researching my wifes 3 times grandparents, Thomas Bishop (born about 1827 Birmingham) and his wife Susanna Bishop. All I have at the moment is the 1861 census where the family are living in the Park area of Sheffield.
Love to know a little more about the family. Althogh Thomas did not live a long life, buried age 38, on the 10 Oct 1866, Sheffield. He was an interesting character insomuch he was a musician, perhaps a busker, a bit different from our usual family occupations of coal hewer or steelworks labourer. Sadly he was born blind at birth.
Can anyone help with further information.

Regards Phil.

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Do you know where he was buried and have you checked to see if any newspaper articles?

Re: Busking ?

Buried in the General Cemetery, unconsecrated section.

grave T193
died 07 Oct 1866 buried 10 Oct 1866
Thomas Bishop 38y Musician
(died in) Vine Yard, York St

This is a public grave, with 24 burials, 18 of them of adults. 14 of them died in one of the two union workhouses in Sheffield.

Hugh

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Here are the GRO registrations for the births of the 5 children named on the 1861 census.Note that Martha was registered illegitimate and there are many spelling variations of the mother surname.
I can find no marriage on Free BMD for a Thomas Bishop to a Susanna Eas*

EASTUP, MARTHA -
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 356

BISHOP, ALFRED EASTHOPE
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 253

BISHOP, THOMAS HENRY EASTHOP
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 251

BISHOP, ROSINA EASTHORPE
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 266

BISHOP, ARTHUR EASTHOPE
GRO Reference: 1860 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 330.

All the birth registrations are available as instant digital images at a cost of £3 each.

Dave

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I think this is what you want.

Marriage on 27 July 1852 - Sheffield Wicker

Thomas Bishop Gilson, 24, Musician. Father - Thomas
Susannah Easthope, 23. Father - Edwin.
This transcript is on FMP.

Anne

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Susanna remarried, 7 Nov 1876 at Pitsmoor, to Thomas GILLOTT blade forger. He was 29, and she was '40'. Her father listed as Edward EASTHORPE, brass caster.

These are their burials, from this site:

Gilloth, Thomas (T B Maker, age 48).
Died at 1ct Blue Boy St; Buried on October 13, 1894 in Unconsecrated ground;
Grave Number 13401, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.

Gillott, Susannah (Widow, age 69).
Died at 4ct Hoyle St; Buried on December 21, 1898 in Unconsecrated ground;
Grave Number 13401, Section BB of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.

There are three other people buried in this grave, surnames BROWN, REANEY and RODGERS.

Hugh

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The 1852 marriage is also in the Independent (31st July):

(At Trinity church, Wicker...)
On the 27th Inst., Mr. Thomas Bishop Gilson, musician, to Miss Susannah Easthope. [sic]

Hugh

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Hello Hugh,
Thank you for the info and your time, greatly appreciated.
Phil

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Hello Dave,

Many thanks great stuff, great help.
Thank you for your time.
Phil.

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Hello Anne,

Many thanks for that bit of important info.

Phil.

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Phil, are you aware that Susanna had 4 more children after 1861?

BISHOP, SUSANNAH EASTHOPE
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 309

BISHOP, EDWARD EASTHORPE
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 285

and these twins born 18 months or more after Thomas died
BISHOP, FRED EASTHOPE
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 335
BISHOP, HARRY EASTHOPE
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 336

There are deaths registrations for Fred age 6 months and Harry age 4yrs

Dave

Re: Busking ?

Hello Dave,
No, flippin heck. She was a busy lass eh ? and him too hubby Thomas. From the 1861 census how would you decribe the term musician to someone who is blind ? Perhaps someone who begs and plays an instrument on the street corner. We have a right clan, another rellie is described in a later census as - a vagrant, lives by begging !!

Thanks again
Phil

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I was hoping to find he was a fiddler because the Blind Fiddlers of Sheffield were reknowned, though mainly in an earlier generation.

Hugh

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Blindness and music are not strangers. Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder to name but two very successful blind persons making more than an average income from their music. There is also the blind Italian opera singer whose name escapes me (age catching up with me)
Dave
Ps Susana and her many children are on the 1871 census. She was a "charwoman"
Dave