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The grave contains 18 burials. 3 are adults buried between Sept 29 and October 6th.
The other 15 are children under 2 and all buried between Oct 7 and Nov 6. Very few of those child burials have no death reg on GRO.So clearly for at least this grave City Rd were burying children in 1882 without death cert.
Dave
Correction. Very few have A death reg on GRO
Thank you, Dave, Heather and Elaine for your replies. I have no doubt that the transcription is correct. I am just perplexed that there is no corresponding birth or death registered and no christening. I had assumed that a death certificate would be required prior to a burial, but apparently that is not the case, then. Of the Hope burial's on this site, 10 are mine and they are scattered between City Road, Burngreave and St. Michael's with the majority being in Roman Catholic sections or unconsecrated sections. Basically very few of my ancestors who are buried in Sheffield, had family plots. They are almost all buried in what I believe are called common or pauper's graves. I guess, Mary Lizzie Hope will remain a puzzle. I feel she is likely to be a child of Mary Hope.
Helen
Hi there,
This I think links in with your suggestion that her mother was Mary Hope.
Hope, Mary (Spinster, age 34).
Died at 14ct Pond St; Buried on July 23, 1898 in Unconsecrated ground;
Grave Number 11016, Section AA of City Road Cemetery, Sheffield.
Parent or Next of Kin if Available: ~. Remarks: .
Elaine.
Was Mary the mother in Sheffield in 1881? Could Mary lizzie hope have been born and baptised in Ireland hence the reason no birth found
Noted in the Sheffield Independent of 23rd September 1886: Mary Hope took out a prosecution to recover her illegitimate child, called Laura Hope, under two years of age, who had been detained "unlawfully and by force" by George Gillott, the father, an ostler of Pond Hill. Mary had previously obtained an affiliation order against him, but he was not paying her anything, and it was 12s. in arrears. The court found in favour of the father, that he could keep the child, with no penalty. Mary "left the court, talking volubly as to the injustice of the decision". However Gillot was suprised to be told that he would still have to pay the mother for the maintenance of the child.
Yes, Mary Hope was born in Sheffield and lived all of her short life in Sheffield. She died on July 28, 1898 at Court 14 Pond St. Thank you Ted, I have that newspaper article. The daughter in the article that is named as Laura was actually Nora and Mary and George must have come to some sort of agreement outside of court, because Nora was returned to Mary and remained with her mother until her mother's death and then remained with her mother's common law husband after that. Supposedly within the family, or at least between her sisters, Nora was referred to as "the illegitimate one", but in fact all of Mary's children were illegitimate. Her first daughter was Harriet born in the workhouse on June 5, 1880 and baptism is on this site. Then Nora was born on Aug. 4, 1884 and again the baptism is on this site. Her birth certificate shows father as George Hope and mother as Mary Hope late Cunningham. Lies were told. Mary was never a Cunningham and George was actually George Gillot as the newspaper article stated. By about 1887, Mary seems to have settled into a domestic relationship with William Toes and they had 2 daughters together, though there was no marriage. My grandmother, Mary Ellen was born on July 10, 1890 and Doris was born on May 25, 1895. Mary Ellen's birth certificate shows father William Toes and mother Mary Toes late Hope. Doris's certificate shows father blank and mother Mary Hope, but Doris was given the middle name of Tows (spelt with a w). The entire Hope family appear regularly in the newspapers with everything from petty crimes, violent assaults, major crimes and tragic deaths. Mary Lizzie's birth and death in 1882 would fit quite neatly in between Harriet and Nora, so this is why that burial has been on my radar for many years now. I had hoped I could find some evidence to make certain that Mary Lizzie was in fact Mary's daughter. Mary's mother, Ellen was 41 years old at the time Mary Lizzie was born and died and she had had what I assume was her last child in 1878, so there is a chance that Mary Lizzie could have been Ellen's child. On a positive note, despite all the turmoil of their childhood, Nora, Mary Ellen and Doris went on to have very respectable lives.
Helen