Dave, thanks for the info re Hutton Cranswick so we know that is wrong.
Richard in 1861 was 50 years old so that rules out another option I had that he was serving in the armed forces etc.
I just hope the answer to all this isn't staring us in the face.
I wonder if he had any shops etc and if so would he be in the Kelly's around the mid 1860s pity they were not available on line.
Finally another crazy idea of mine...could Richard be in fact his middle name. I mean we know his father was called John so was he really John Richard Potter and known to evryone as Richard to save confusion.
Hazel
I know you have the birth cert for Jane Potter in 1872. Who registered the birth and what was the birth address please?
Dave
PS Wow Denise, great find
POTTER, Jane Ann (Dau of Richd Potter, age 2 years 10 months).
Died at Nursery Street; Buried on October 21, 1865 in General ground;
Grave Number 29, Section T5 of Burngreave Cemetery, Sheffield.
Hazel
I have checked the Nursery Street entries on the 1871 census and there are several blocks of numbers missing I suspect that Lucy (perhaps with Richard) was in one of those missing houses.
Dave
Does this fit in with any of the research you have seen.
POTTER, Joseph (Widower, age 30, Striker, residing at Brightside).
Married Sarah Ann PEARSON, on March 22, 1874, by Thomas Hulme (Banns) at
St Thomas, Brightside. Father's name is Joseph Potter (Carter).
Married in the presence of William Potter (mark),Ann Hall (mark).
Notes: Groom signed with a mark.
This family are certainly confusing. Needs a flow sheet to keep them all sorted.
Does this fit in with any of the research you have seen.
POTTER, Joseph (Widower, age 30, Striker, residing at Brightside).
Married Sarah Ann PEARSON, on March 22, 1874, by Thomas Hulme (Banns) at
St Thomas, Brightside. Father's name is Joseph Potter (Carter).
Married in the presence of William Potter (mark),Ann Hall (mark).
Notes: Groom signed with a mark.
This family are certainly confusing. Needs a flow sheet to keep them all sorted.
Elaine.
Hi Elaine
I've looked at the father Joseph Potter, Carter. His wife died in 1875. So he could potentially have hooked up with Lucy. He then died in 1879 (the one Hazel found).
So all that fits in theory. But, if its him and he was only with Lucy for about 4 years would the girls have referred to him later as father?? Maybe Jane if he was all she knew.
Possible but I haven't yet found anything else to tie it in. So I've parked him for now.
Given Richard was born in Scarborough and we don't know anything else about his earlier life, we don't know if he had children from his first marriage. Maybe he did and they were back near Scarborough. He could have left Lucy to go back?
Ps there is a marriage of a Richard Potter to Mary Saunderson in 1840 at Hutton Cranswick, this is a village near Driffield. Presume we can rule this out.
This couple are in Hutton Cranswick with 2 children on the 1861 census. We know the correct Richard was in Sheffield in 1861.
Dave
The only marriage I found for a Henry Coleman and a Mary Whattam (various spellings was) -
Mary Watton
Gender Female
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 15 Apr 1824
Marriage Place Saint Leonard, Shoreditch: Shoreditch High Street, Hackney, England
Spouse Henry Coleman
Register Type Parish Register
I had done my research years ago before the advent of computers etc. I think I got it from the IGI - now it does show on ancestry.
Both Henry b c 1798 and Mary were born in Leicestershire as it states in the census.
Familysearch gives us Henry Coleman Coleman
Birth Date 25 Apr 1797
Religion Anglican
Father's Name Thos
Mother's Name Sarah
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 18 Jun 1797
Event Place Great Bowden, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Leicestershire,England,Great Bowden