Can I please get help with the following entries

Hancock, Joannes (of 26 River Lane, born 1908-01-22).
Baptised February 5, 1908, by Gulielmo Hayes at St Maries, Sheffield Centre.
Parents name(s) are Mariae McGuire & Thomae ().
Note:
Godparents: ~ ~ Emma Hill :Page No 103 :Reg No
Similar Date Baptised Same Household if Available Surname Match if Available

Noon, Teresia (of 26 River Lane, born 1908-05-19).
Baptised May 23, 1908, by Francisco van Neste at St Maries, Sheffield Centre.
Parents name(s) are Mariae McGuire & Thomae ().
Note:
Godparents: ~ ~ Maria Noon :Page No 111 :Reg No

Both have same parent names but Tersisa has a different surname, we do have a Teresa Hancock but she was born in 1899, both baptism's have the () after Thomae name (Thomas in my records) I am wondering if there is a note and also in the Godparents line it has Emma Hill for Joannes ( we have a John Hancock born that day could this be Johnathan abbreviated?) and Maria Noon for Teresia, can you tell me what these names may mean or are they godparents?
Thanks in advance.

I have just typed in Mariae in the mothers 1st name search and I have come up with more of her name all with different mothers names in the comments samples below is this strange?

BLACK, Thomas (of Gower St, born 1866-10-20).
Baptised February 2, 1868, by Josepho Hurst at St Charles, Attercliffe.
Parents name(s) are Mariae & Thomae (~).
Note: Mother olim Turner
Godparents: Anna Mills :Page No 14 :Reg No ~
Similar Date Baptised Same Household if Available Surname Match if Available

BOLLAND, Alfredus (of Old Hall Rd, born 1873-02-20).
Baptised March 30, 1873, by Josepho Hurst at St Charles, Attercliffe.
Parents name(s) are Mariae & Gulielmi (~).
Note: Mother olim Gannon
Godparents: Henricus Murray,Maria Slattery :Page No 126 :Reg No 20
Similar Date Baptised Same Household if Available Surname Match if Available

BRENNAN, Gulielmus (of Attercliffe, born 1867-05-19).
Baptised November 2, 1867, by Josepho Hurst at St Charles, Attercliffe.
Parents name(s) are Mariae & Frederici (~).
Note: Mother olim McDonald
Godparents: Georgius Doherty :Page No 11 :Reg No 1

Hi Maxine,

I am going to say completly discard the 2nd message you posted as you were NOT using the correct way to search. That is why you were pulling up different churches.

It will take me some time to search the original material looking for errors in our transcription.

On the search page just below the search bar there is information re the () or [] it should have an "I" in the center of them telling you that there is more information that we have not transcribed.

Now to find the original material.

Elaine in Ottawa.

PS might I suggest you check out FreeBMD and see if you can spot Teresa.

Hi Maxine

These are Roman Catholic baptisms, so the names are in Latin. eg Joannes is Latin for John. Thomae is Latin for Thomas.

The closed brackets after Thomae represent the field where any fathers occupation would appear.

Just the brackets () mean no fathers occupation was provided.

Denise

Hi Maxine,

I have just searched 20 years of material for the Baptism originals that we used to transcribe St Maries RC Church. And no joy I am afraid.

However I have checked the transcriptions for Joannes(John) Hancoc on page 103
and Teresia Noon on page 111.

Both pages were transcribed by two different transcribers and both were excellent.

John Hancock was registered and on the GRO index. March qtr 1908 Sheffield 9c 599 MMN McGuire.

Teresia Noon-Hancock was not listed at the GRO in 1908.

Sorry but thats as far as I can go.

Elaine in Ottawa.

"also in the Godparents line it has Emma Hill for Joannes ( we have a John Hancock born that day could this be Johnathan abbreviated?) and Maria Noon for Teresia, can you tell me what these names may mean or are they godparents?"

I believe Emma Hill and Maria Noon must be godparents.
Dave

Hi Maxine,

You will be pleased to note I have found the ORIGINAL material for the 1908 Baptisms at St Marie's RC Church.

Page 111 . 1904-1924
It reads. Hancock 26 River Lane.
Teresia Hancock DOB 19/05/1899
Bap 23/05/1908
Godparent Maria Noon

Our error will change the database. I apologuise.

Elaine in Ottawa.

That makes sense thank you

Thanks Elaine I appreciate you going to the trouble