Just wanted to end this one on a positive note because we did finally find Henry's parents,and two of his brothers.
It looked impossible because it looked likely that Henry was not baptised, backed up by his many children and grandchildren showing many unusual baptism traits. Missing baptisms, block baptisms and very late baptisms.
We ran out of conventional sources. Fortunately Cathie had an heirloom of a piece of artwork, the Riddle, done by a William Ibbotson and dated 1817. From burial records it was possible to identify him as Henry's older brother, a filesmith who is in the Apprentices and Freemen list, along with another brother George, both of whom were apprenticed to their father Thomas. Then it all fell into place. Thomas was married to Christiana Nut and none of their children were baptised. Henry named one of his children Thomas and another Christiana to further tie him in.
The icing on the cake was finding William's wedding cert. He was literate and his signature was beautiful, the best handwriting on the register, showing his artistic bent.
No surprise that there are several public trees with the wrong ancestors.
It would not have been possible without that heirloom.
Brick wall breached. Case closed.
Dave
Reuben & Maria had a son Thomas Pashley Ibbotson who had a daughter Charlotte she married Thomas Wood and had a son George Wood who married Annie Worrall Ibbotson who was the daughter of Joseph Ibbotson & Angelina Worrall, Joseph is the son of my Joseph Ibbotson & Matilda Hobson. My family tree maker relationship calculater does show a link although distant. What do you think!!!
Cathie, thanks.
So just to confirm I have it right. When you said that your mother said the riddle may have been done by the grandfather of her paternal grandfather that would be Joseph Ibbotson born 1827. Alternatively she said it could have been great uncle, which I assume means a brother of Joseph. Both of those must be out by a generation because the riddle was done in 1817 by a William Ibbotson who must have been born at the very latest about 1806.
At the very top of the riddle is the large word QUEEN. Can you read the two words immediately below that please?
It looks something like ????ance Co???ion
Alternatively can you take a close up of that area and send to me please?
Dave
No you havent missed anything. The riddle hasnt been 'published' on this forum. Its a picture of the original that Cathie has and shes emailed it directly to those who requested to take a look.