my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
ANY info re her - she m robert Edwin Hawksworth in 1906,married 1914 George Graham - probably bigamously unless she divorced REHawksworth,falsely described herself as Alice Johnson.
Children with Johnson: George Hannah Frank.
Children with Graham: Alice Winifred.
Children with Hawksworth: Edna (mary) Alice.
Died in 1921 in Rotherham workhouse.
Born in 1882 in Sheffield - Stancer Street.
Mother: Fanny,nee Bagnall.
Father: Charles henry otter.
Any photros would be wonderful!
Re: my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
Hi
Something doesn't make sense here.
I followed Robert Edwin Hawksworth.
On the 1939 register (Hawkesworth on Ancestry) he is living at 35 Bute Street Sheffield
Robert E Hawkesworth Married 29 Aug 1881 Spring Knife Cutler
Alice Hawkesworth Married 8 Mar 1882 Unpaid Domestic duties.
From probate records, Robert died on 16 Jan 1951 of 35 Bute Street - Administration to his widow Alice.
On FMP, Alice Otter was baptised on 29 Mar 1882 at St Michaels Neepsend which would tie in with a date of birth 8 Mar 1882 on the 1939 register.
Possible deaths-
HAWKSWORTH Alice 74 Mar 1957 Sheffield 2d 16
HAWKSWORTH Alice 77 Sep 1957 Sheffield 2d 96
Re: my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
Hi Malcolm,
I think there are at least two different families.
1911 census, house 1, court 6, Crookes, Sheffield.
Robert Edwin Hawksworth, 29, mar, cutler,
Alice Hawksworth, wife, 29 (1882).
Edna Hawksworth, dau, 4yrs.
Alice Hawksworth, dau, 1yr.
Edith Williams, niece, 21yrs, general servant.
All born Sheffield.
1911 census, 51 Ellen Street, Rotherham.
George Johnson, head, mar, 44yrs, sanitary stoker, born Walkeringham, Notts.
Alice Johnson, wife, 31yrs, born Walkeringham, Notts.
George Johnson, son, 12yrs, born Rotherham,
Frank Johnson, son, 10yrs, born Rotherham.
Hannah Johnson, dau, 6yrs, born Rotherham.
George Otter Johnson born 2 Oct 1898, bap 3 Aug 1899 at St. Thomas, Kimberworth.
Parents, George and Alice of 79 Wortley Road, bricklayer.
Frank (Otter) Johnson born 6 Dec 1900, bap 30 Nov 1904 at Masborough. Parents, George and Alice of Bradgate Row, labourer.
Hannah (Otter) Johnson born 1 Jan 1905, bap 1 Feb 1905 at Masborough. Parents, George and Alice of 37 Bradgate Road, labourer.
Re: my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
According to GRO an Alice Otter was born illegitimate in Gainborough in 1878. She seems to match the 1914 Graham - Alice Otter marriage, and the 1921 death of Alice Graham. So it looks like 3 different families.
Dave
Re: my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
Hi
If the Alice Graham b.1878 died 1921 Rotherham is the correct lady, then she would have been about 36 years old when she married George Graham in 1914. A possible second marriage?
I suggest the death certificate of Alice Graham in 1921 and the previously mentioned marriage certificate are needed.
Re: my grandmother Alice Graham,nee Otter, & bigamously Graham,falsely Johnson.
Sue, according to gro index the births of Alice Graham and Winifred Graham had mother maiden name Otter. So the Alice Otter who became Graham in 1914 was born Alice Otter.
Dave