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Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Fred, the GRO Index says that Alice's mother maiden name was Burdekin. Also there were the following Longden Burdekin children , siblings to Alice's:
Alfred born 1863, chapel en le Frith
Agnes Hughes born 1867 Sheffield,
Thomas born 1869 Sheffield
Hannah born 1873 Sheffield
George Henry born 1876 Sheffield
Dave

Edit : both Agnes Hughes and Thomas died shortly after birth

Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Fred,

We are more than happy help if we can but there is something rather odd about this Alice.

The one I found that fits the bill on the 1891 census has a father called George he's 43 a widow and a Engine Tool Fitter. Born in Lincoln.

Looking back to 1881 his wife Elizabeth is with him. However the children do not match the children Dave found with the mothers name of Burdekin.

The address on both census is the same 26 Bromley St Sheffield (parish St Stephen).

Does that ring any bells? How sure are you that she married Charles Samuel Buckley in Burton on Trent in Dec qtr 1894.
That was an Alice Hancock Longden.

If you could give us something other than that marriage that you know is her and is 100% correct please.

Elaine.

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Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Elaine and Fred,

Alice Longden of 26 Bromley Street, daughter of George and Elizabeth,
married William Cook, 6 Sep 1891 at St George's. So not the right one.

I have searched the census, but I am having trouble finding the children
that Dave found. There is a baptism at Hope, Derbyshire for a Alfred Longden,
30 June 1863 parents, John and Mary. I wondered if this was the Alfred registered
at Chapel-en-le-Frith in 1863.

The only Longden/Burdekin marriage I could find took place at St John the Baptist,
Hulme, Nr. Manchester, 23 Nov 1861. John Longden to Mary Burdekin.

Moira.




Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Moira,

They are the ones I found which made me wonder about the marriage that Fred quoted.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Elaine and Fred,

Going back to the childrens registration that Dave found.....

The burial of Agnes Hughes Longden is on this site. She is the daughter of
Ned, aged 7 months of Edward Street, bur 16 Feb 1868, Burngreave Cemetery.

Also, in the same grave is Alice Longden, dau of Edward, aged 10months.
Buried 9 June 1872.

If this is the Alice whose birth was registered in the September quarter
of 1871 in Sheffield, she can't be the one who married in Burton-upon-Trent.

Moira.



Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Moira,

I had seen that also, thats why I had asked Fred if he had more info on Alice.

There also another Alice who died as Alice Longden in our burials I believe she was 61 yrs old.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Fred is looking for the origins of Alice Hancock Longden who married Charles SF Buckley in 1894, Burton. The birth he found in 1871 Sheffield is clearly a false lead. GRO says they had 2 sons John and William in 1895 and 1898 both in Chesterfield. Charles S F Buckley died in Chesterfield in the 1930s. I assume the 1901 and 1911 censuses will tell us where Alice was born.
Dave

Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Fred,

1901 census - Chatsworth Road, Chesterfield.
Charles Buckley, 30yrs, house furnisher, born Bakewell, Dby.
Alice Buckley, 29yrs (1872), draper, born Brampton, Dby.
Sons Willie 5yrs and Harry 10months. Both born Chesterfield.
Fanny Longden, Vis, single, 19yrs, cotton weaver, born Chesterfield.

1891 census - 53 Wheatbridge Road, Brampton, Chesterfield.
Francis Longden, 40yrs. (no occupation or place of birth given).
Ann Longden, 39yrs, steam boiler maker, born Brampton.
Alice Longden, dau, 19yrs, born Brampton.
Other children - Mary 17, Annie 12, FANNY 9yrs and Walter 7months.

Marriage, 29 December 1872, Old Brampton.
Francis Longden to Annie Hancock.
No father is given for Francis, Annie's father Thomas Hancock.

Moira.

Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

From GRO Index, Alice Longden HANCOCK born illegitimate q2 1871 Chesterfield.
Dave

Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Hi Dave t, Elaine & Moira.
Thank you all again for your very kind replies. The birth given record given By Dave is the only birth record Found albeit the names are changed around. Theire marriage record does give her names as Alice Hancock Longden Oct - Dec 1894 Burton Upon Trent Staffordshire Vol 6b Page 687.
I think to claer this one up I shall send for both a Birth & married hoping the fathers name is the same on each of the records.
Once Again Many thanks to you all.
My very best wishes to you and all your families.
Fred Wheatcroft.

Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Don't forget Fred that as she was illegitimate it probably does not show her fathers name.

Elaine.

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Re: Alice buckley Nee Longden

Fred, Ann Hancock was 18 when she had Alice. Francis Longden was 19. She named her Alice Longden Hancock and no father named.They married when Francis became 21 in q4 1872.
Dave