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4 Court Saville Street 1888

Hello Again,

It has been a few years since I have delved into my family history.My knowledge and skills are rusty to say the least. My interest has been renewed after receiving an inquiry from a first cousin with whom I had lost contact. In trying to explain our grandfathers birth certificate I am having trouble explaining that he was born at 4 Court Saville Street 8 June 1888 but the address of the mother at the day of registration (18 June 1888) was 27 Heeley Green.

Any notes I had on the subject seem to have found their way to oblivion. Is there a way that I could ascertain what type of residence 4 Ct Saville Street was. Perhaps a hospital or a clinic of some sort? Maybe a relatives house? I wonder if checking the 1881 and the 1891 might reveal something but the method for searching an address eludes me.

Thank you in advance for any help you may be kind enough to offer.

Jim

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

sorry, it was 4 Court 2 Saville Street

Jim

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

James, can you please provide names and ages of your grandfather and his parents?
Dave

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

I did look in the Rate Books for that address, but, unfortunately, no house numbers are given on Saville Street - just a list of the rate payers. So it was not possible to identify the house - sorry.

It would have been a back-to-back house, so nothing more than a very small house.

Kevin

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

1891-3834-46-36

Mackinder Harry head M 23 carting foreman NFK Southery 4ct 2h Saville St

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Ct 4 still existed in the 1950s and appears on a 1954 map at https://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk

I have sent Jim a snip.

Hugh

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Thank you all for helping re-ignite the fire.

Warmest Regards

Jim

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Once again you have hit the nail on the head! My conclusion that Sarah was living at 27 Heeley Green immediately following her husband Frank's death was not sound. Her daughters birth certificate gives 4 Court H 2 as their address at the birth. She is the first child born to Sarah Ann after Franks death. The second born is similarily housed at the same address. So there she was. Another puzzle pîece in place.

Sometimes I canèt see for looking!

Thanks Hugh!

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Jim, if you want to see what the typical back-to-back court houses were like then take a look at the PictureSheffield site. If you search for Whitby Hotel you get 7 answers and they include photos from front, side and back of the hotel so you see the shops on the front, the court houses behind and the "ginnel" entrance to the court from the street. You can also see the block of outside privies in bottom right of the photo of the court houses there. The number one court house has been incorporated into the hotel.
PS, apologies to all you Yorkshire folk if I have used the wrong term (ginnel), which I know from Lancashire. Is it the same term in Sheffield?
Dave

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Hi Dave

Our family say it as jennel but even in Sheffield there may be variations

Vicki

Re: 4 Court Saville Street 1888

Thank you David. I have the site bookmarked from previous research but the hotel referencxe was very useful. I have searched Sorby Street, Carlisle, Heeley Green and found numerous photos although nothing of the exact addresses that I am searching. Thanks again.
Jim