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bastardy records around 1889

Are there any records of the above.

Re: bastardy records around 1889

Hi Barry

Try the Petty session records.

I am just transcribing the records held by Sheffield Archives and there are 38 books....loads of convictions for bastardy.

Angela

Re: bastardy records around 1889

Thanks for that Angela, I am still looking for the reason why there is no birth record for my great aunt Phoebe Agnes Rhodes, The sisters were too young to have born a child at the time. The only other option is one of the sons, Which would probably be Tom Rhodes he was a witness at her wedding and then promptly emigrated to Australia. Could you let me know if you come across Tom Rhodes in your transcription having a girl born August 1889? regards Barry

Re: bastardy records around 1889

Hi Barry,

Fact Details For Harriet Rhodes nee Goddard.
25 January 1898 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Died at 17 Tennyson Road.

1901 census has Tom a widow living at Tennyson St.
Phoebe aged 12. Listed on both the 1901 AND 1891 Census as a daughter.

I can understand if her mother died at the time of her birth why she may not have been registered.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Hi Elaine, I meant his son Tom Rhodes born 1873 not Thomas William. Barry

Re: bastardy records around 1889

And I apologize that I miss read Phoebe's birth year and her mothers death year.

Elaine.

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Re: bastardy records around 1889

Hi Barry

According to records on Find My Past Phoebe Rhodes (date of birth 2 August 1888) was the daughter of Tom William Rhodes, engraver of 17 Tennyson Road. She was admitted to Upperthorpe School on 11 June 1900. When she married William Edward Stanley on 3 July 1911 the certificate gives her father as Tom William Rhodes (deceased),engraver. All of this ties in with Elaine's post.

Margaret

Re: bastardy records around 1889

Thanks for that Margaret, I have been looking on Ancestry and nothing at all comes up. This has solved a big mystery for me thanks again. Cannot believe all the misleading information I have, the 1891 census says they were living at 81 Creswick Street so no need to check Tennyson Road. The 1939 census shows her birth date as 5 August 1889. regards Barry "case closed"

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Hi Margaret, I thought case closed but cannot find a birth record on Ancestry, Family Search or the GRO records. Does your record give the GRO reference? Barry

Re: bastardy records around 1889

Barry,

I had used Ancestry for the information I gave you.

Look at the TREES..........and the census information.
My information was the same as Margaret's.

If Phoebe was born in 1889.......I doubt that Tom jnr was the father.(1873)

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Re: bastardy records around 1889

Sorry Barry I cannot help further. I have searched for but have been unable to find a birth registration for Phoebe. Either her birth was not registered or else there has been an error but that does not mean she was illegitimate.

Margaret