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Hi Roger,
From Family Search......
Name William Stevenson
Spouse's Name Mary Dearrick
Event Date 09 Oct 1822
Event Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England
I used the years 1800 to 1836.
I believe that the Baptisms & Marriages are on FindMyPast or the CD that you have, have you checked with S&DFHS for a replacement? I am presuming that its their CD?
Elaine in Ottawa.
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Hi Elaine
I was aware of William's age, he was born c1797
Roger, have you tried cleaning your CD with a spectacle cleaning wipe? Or is it more serious.
Dave
Hi Dave, tried that, no success.
Would SKS in the S&DFHS take pity on a member since 1978 and swop it.
Seriously I will purchase a new copy !
Hi Roger,
Get well soon.......
I am sure Angela will see your predicament and let you know if a "swap" can be arranged.
Getting back to William, I started in 1818 and covered up to 1826 and the only one I can spot is the one you had of William Stevenson & Mary Dearrick.
Reference R/183/547 (dates between 1821-1823)Sheffield Parish Church.
Other than Hannah do you have his other children?
Elaine in Ottawa.
PS. Is this the chap in 1841?
Stevenson, William of Colliers Row, Sheffield Park. Aged 35 years.
(Piece #1336/2, folio 28a, enumeration district 5.
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Hi Roger,
Think its beginning to happen to all of us. BUT we can prop one another up in corners to get our trees completed. (If they ever are) LOL.
I have looked at Stevenson & Stephenson on our 1841 census index and can not spot one on St Philips Road. Do you happen to have the piece & folio number where I can check it out please.
Just a suggestion.......
I wonder if Hannah was indeed Mary Dearricks child. Could she have died after the birth of Elizabeth in 1829? That could make Hannah a child of Mary Ridge.
As I said just a suggestion.
Elaine in a very wet Ottawa.
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Hi Roger,
This looks promising.
STEVENSON, Mary (, died on ?, at the age of 41).
Resided at Sheffield,Dun St and buried on 25 Feb 1833 in ? ground;
Grave Number ?, Section ? of Sheffield Parish Church Cemetery, City Centre.
Notes: . Place of Birth: . Parent(s): Willm(scissorsmith).
Elaine.
Wm snr on the 1841 census (yes I found him) but have to check why he isn't showing up on the index. Is aged 40.
Mary his wife is aged 30 so the NEW Mrs Stevenson.
Do you agree that the burial is probably the 1st Mary Stevenson.
Elaine in Ottawa.
PS THough it says parents and then Willm (scissorsmith) Its either parents or spouse.
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Back again Roger,
Found the reason why William was not turning up in our database search.
He is listed as Wm Stevenson on the census.
But was transcribed as Wm. so unless you entered Wm period he would not show.
I have removed the period for Wm snr and jnr and Jas as well.
So they now show up. Phew thats a relief.
Elaine in Ottawa.
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Good evening everyone
Surprising when you have the time and opportunity, when normally being a very busy retired bloke who unfortunately is house bound at the moment, how you can progress your research.
Thanks to Elaine for her help !
Now found my GGgrandfather William Stevensons first wife, Mary Dearrick, when my GGgrandfather was baptised, another Sheffield location where he lived, the name of his parents, John and Jane and the names of his brothers and sisters PHEW !!
Don't ever give up folks, knock down those brick walls and be patient like me, having researched my family history on and off, more off than on, for 40 years.
I will add in a thanks to all of you past and present who have sat and recorded so much valuable information.
My recent research has as usual thrown up some interesting questions which I am hoping that folks on this forum will answer.
2 sons of my GGgrandfather William Stevenson, Henry buried 4 Nov 1832 & Edward buried 27 Jan 1833, both living on Dun St, their mother Mary's address when buried on 25 Feb 1833.
Neither Henry or Edward are shown on the SF Indexers baptism records for the Cathedral
1816 - 1842
Neither are Elizabeth & Hanah age 12 & 6 living at 141 St Philips Road with their parents & family shown on the SF Indexers baptism record 1816 - 1842
William's other children, William bap 1823, Thomas 1825, Mary Ann 1826 are shown.
Were Henry, Edward, Elizabeth & Hanah baptised, if so then where ?
4 children not baptised is surely unusual !
Are there other baptism records available which may show baptism dates for those 4 children ?
Roger, i've just drawn a blank too on Find my past.
Terry
Hi Terry and thanks for looking !
Questions to take some answering
I have my thinking cap on and struggling !
Hi Roger,
Got my thinking cap on also.......
What years were these children born?
I remember with the Cathedral baptisms that we transcribed from fiche and the pages were in terrible condition.
Have you been through the S&DFHS transcriptions to see if they have them as they used the actual registers. But saying that I do believe that those are the ones FindMyPast are now using. Terry said they were not on FMP.
Going back to our transcription I suppose they could have been hard to read for both S&DFHS and ourselves. Other than you getting to Sheffield Archives and seeing the actual registers I don't know any other way around your dilemma.
Our transcriptions for St Philips cover 1828-1969
Cathedral 1816-1842.
Elaine in Ottawa.
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Good morning Angela and thanks for your kind offer
My e mail address on it's way to you
Roger
Hi Roger,
Material that S&DFHS have transcribed is available for purchase through GENFAIR.
https://www.genfair.co.uk/product_list.php?sid=106&page=143825
They will also give you a choice of CD's or a download.
Elaine in Ottawa.
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Hi Roger,
I have had a crack at your brickwall.
My findings will need rechecking.
I have found 6 children of William & a Mary scissorsmith
between 1823 & 1841. That were baptised at Sheffield Parish Church.
Mary Stevenson nee Dearrick was buried at Sheffield Parish Church 25th FEb 1833.
The four children not baptised would make 10 children.
If you look at the burials of Henry & Edward I think I can see a picture emerging.
Henry was buried 4th Nov 1832
Edward 27th Jan 1833
Mary 25th Feb 1833.
A reason for the boys not being baptised could be they just hadn`t got around to it when they both became ill and mum caught what ever they had. All three dying.
Or....
Henry died of some childhood disease
and mum finally succumbed to a complication of childbirth after Edward had died back in Jan. There could have been private baptisms that were never entered into the PR`s.
Now for Hannah she was born in 1835. So NOT a child of Mary Dearrick
Could she have been baptised as Hannah Ridge.
The same with Elizabeth is she a child of Mary Ridge.(1782-1833)
That`s my two cents worth.
Elaine.
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Just a quick note.
I used the baptismal Records from the S&DFHS transcription.
William & Mary Dearrick mar Oct 1822
Children
William 1823
Thomas 1825
Mary Ann 1827
plus Henry buried 1832
Edward buried 1833
Mary Stevenson nee Dearrick aged 41 died 1833.
with Mary Ridge
m. 1836
George John 1838
James 1839
Sarah Mary Ann 1841.
That leaves Elizabeth 1829 & Hannah 1835.
they show on the 1841 census.
Elizabeth could fit in between Mary Ann and Henry.
Hannah I believe was born prior to Wm & Mary Ridges marriage but probably theirs.
My suggestions but you need to look into them.
Elaine.
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Hi Roger, dont despair on my tree I have six children of different ages all Christened together which seemed to be the practice way back. Get well soon regards Barry Green
Is it possible that they were baptised at the Catholic Cathedral on Norfolk Row?
Morning Roger,
You stated.
"Hanah's age of 6 shown on the 1841 census record is correct, then surely she was Mary Dearrick's child !"
I would like to state what I feel is the correct burial for Mary Stevenson nee Derrick.
STEVENSON, Mary (, died on ?, at the age of 41).
Resided at Sheffield,Dun St and buried on 25 Feb 1833 in ? ground;
Grave Number ?, Section ? of Sheffield Parish Church Cemetery, City Centre.
Notes: . Place of Birth: . Parent(s): Willm(scissorsmith).
If and I say IF.......
If we can take as correct Hannah's age in 1841 That would mean she was born 1834/5.
If Hannah was born prior to Feb 1833 when MaryD died she would have been aged 7 or 8.
Mary R. may have moved in to help William with his children and became pregnant. They later married.
My suggestion to you is to either use the information from the S&DFHS CD on Cathedral baptisms or actually try and see the registers at Sheffield Archives. That maybe difficult and they may only allow access to the fiche of those registers. Which is what we had trouble with.
To answer John's suggestion re St Marie's we transcribed the available registers from 1840.
1783-1840 Baptisms available from the National Archives.
Thats as far as I can go.
Elaine in Ottawa.
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