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Re: Late Baptisim

Hi Sue,

I checked the Cd & Family Search for your John father William with no luck.

However there is I believe his apprenticeship on Eric Youles site. It would give a birth year of 1795.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Would this FamilySearch record be the same family? -
name: Hannah Harvey
gender: Female
birth date: 24 Jul 1803
birthplace: MASBRO COMMON PARTICULAR BAPTIST,MASBROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Willm. Harvey
mother's name: Hanh.
indexing project (batch) number: C09354-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0828144 (RG4 3406)

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Geoffrey

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Re: Late Baptisim

Going by what Geoffrey said I have found this marriage on a CD by Rotherham FHS - Rotherham All Saints Church on 9th June 1794 William Harvey to Hannah Jervis. Unfortunately they have not done a baptism disk for the above parish for dates prior to 1803. John

Re: Late Baptisim

which could account for the reason he isn't in the Cathedral Baptisms.

Harvey, John (of Low Ropery, born 1795-03-30).
Baptised October 27, 1852, by E.G.Kelly at St John's, Park.
Parents name(s) are Hannah & William (Cutler).

William on the Apprenticeship List was a sc. Scissorsmith I believe.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Re: Late Baptisim

Hi John,
Yes William and Hannah are Johns parents.
The name Jervis was carried on in the family as a christian or middle name.
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Sue.

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Hi Geoffrey,
I have this Hannah Harvey in my notes as John did have a sister Hannah.
But on the census his sister ( now Hannah Kay ) gives place of birth as Sheffield.
Though there is a link with Rotherham as her mother Hannah Jervis was i belive born at Rawmarsh and married at Rotherham.
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Sue.

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Re: Late Baptisim

Hi Elain,
Yes I have Johns apprentiship record.
John became a table knife manufacturer with his works on Duke Street, while a son , also called John had works on Orange Street.
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Sue.

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Re: Late Baptisim

It looks as if they still had connections with the Baptist Chapel, anyway. By the way, if you look at Eric Youle's list of Cutlers' apprenticeships, I think not only the Harveys, but also the sole Hervey all relate to this same family. I expect you would find Jarvis variants of Jervis too: they're both the same kind of Norman-French name.
Some of my Quaker ancestors were baptized late in order to marry in the C of E; burial might have been a similar consideration, but then you have to ask why would John particularly want to be buried in an Anglican church-yard?

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Geoffrey

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Re: Late Baptisim

Baptism at Rawmarsh (note spelling) Hanna Jervas daughter of William on 3rd Dec 1774 - William was a potter - is this the Hannah you are looking for?

Re: Late Baptisim

Hi John,
That baptisim at Rawmarsh does look like my Johns mum !
Do you know which church it was at ,
thankyou
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Sue.

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Rawmarsh - St Mary's Church is where the baptism was. Sorry i forgot to put on earlier posting. John