Hi Sue,

I checked the Cd & Family Search for your John father William with no luck.

However there is I believe his apprenticeship on Eric Youles site. It would give a birth year of 1795.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Would this FamilySearch record be the same family? -
name: Hannah Harvey
gender: Female
birth date: 24 Jul 1803
birthplace: MASBRO COMMON PARTICULAR BAPTIST,MASBROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Willm. Harvey
mother's name: Hanh.
indexing project (batch) number: C09354-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0828144 (RG4 3406)

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Geoffrey

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Going by what Geoffrey said I have found this marriage on a CD by Rotherham FHS - Rotherham All Saints Church on 9th June 1794 William Harvey to Hannah Jervis. Unfortunately they have not done a baptism disk for the above parish for dates prior to 1803. John

which could account for the reason he isn't in the Cathedral Baptisms.

Harvey, John (of Low Ropery, born 1795-03-30).
Baptised October 27, 1852, by E.G.Kelly at St John's, Park.
Parents name(s) are Hannah & William (Cutler).

William on the Apprenticeship List was a sc. Scissorsmith I believe.

Elaine in Ottawa.

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Hi John,
Yes William and Hannah are Johns parents.
The name Jervis was carried on in the family as a christian or middle name.
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Sue.

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Hi Geoffrey,
I have this Hannah Harvey in my notes as John did have a sister Hannah.
But on the census his sister ( now Hannah Kay ) gives place of birth as Sheffield.
Though there is a link with Rotherham as her mother Hannah Jervis was i belive born at Rawmarsh and married at Rotherham.
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Sue.

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Hi Elain,
Yes I have Johns apprentiship record.
John became a table knife manufacturer with his works on Duke Street, while a son , also called John had works on Orange Street.
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Sue.

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It looks as if they still had connections with the Baptist Chapel, anyway. By the way, if you look at Eric Youle's list of Cutlers' apprenticeships, I think not only the Harveys, but also the sole Hervey all relate to this same family. I expect you would find Jarvis variants of Jervis too: they're both the same kind of Norman-French name.
Some of my Quaker ancestors were baptized late in order to marry in the C of E; burial might have been a similar consideration, but then you have to ask why would John particularly want to be buried in an Anglican church-yard?

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Geoffrey

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Baptism at Rawmarsh (note spelling) Hanna Jervas daughter of William on 3rd Dec 1774 - William was a potter - is this the Hannah you are looking for?

Hi John,
That baptisim at Rawmarsh does look like my Johns mum !
Do you know which church it was at ,
thankyou
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Sue.

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Rawmarsh - St Mary's Church is where the baptism was. Sorry i forgot to put on earlier posting. John