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Trying to find Amelia or Emelia Carter,my grandmother(her married name). Born about 1890 but don't know her maiden name. She lived on Carr Road, Sheffield 6 in the 1960's. My mother, her daughter was called Lucy Carter.
Daryl- was she actually called (Amelia)?.
and how sure are you that she lived in Carr road in the 1960s?.
And when was your mother actually born,and where.?.Kind regards Brian.
Sorry my information is so vague. I am told her name was Amelia or Emelia, trying to find the name of her husband. My mother Lucy Carter was born on 30th March 1918.
Hi Daryl
I couldn't find a birth for a Lucy Carter in either Mar or Jun qtr 1918-which is when your mother should have been registered. I did find this birth
LUCY RICHARDSON Jun 1918 Sheffield 9c 982 mothers name CARTER
Could your grandmother Amelia never married and Lucy was always known with her mother's maiden name?
Just a idea.
Regards
Sue
information still sketchy. We believe grandfather called Benjamin Carter and was married previously, but don't know first wifes name. Had children with first wife Thomas and Louie? Second query wife Amelia, had children Ivy May and Lucy, date of birth 30.3.1918. Lucy went to Bole Hill School but cannot find her mentioned in your school records. Many thanks for your help. Daryl
A Benjamin CARTER married Amelia ALTON in 1930.
Amelia RUDDIFORTH married Reginald Herbert ALTON in JUN Qtr 1909
There are 7 ALTON children with mmn RUDDIFORTH at FreeBMD, including Lucy C ALTON in JUN Qtr 1918 and Ivy C in 1924.
In fact three of the children have middle initial'C'. Could this be for CARTER - meaning that Amelia was no longer with Reginald, and was having children with Benjamin?!
Hugh
Reginald Herbert ALTON died on the Somme (1916).
Of the seven children I mentioned the last was much later and doesn't fit the hypothesis. 4 children born 1918-24 can't be Reginald Herbert's if he died in 1916. Possibly Benjamin's first wife was still living so they couldn't marry until 1930.
Hugh
Confirmation:
Baptisms at St Mary’s, Walkley
born 30 Mar 1918
baptised 17 Apr 1918
Lucy dau of [no father listed] Amelia ALTON
address: 223 Burgoyne Rd.
born 11 Dec 1921
baptised 28 Dec 1921
May dau of Benjamin and Amelia ALTON
address: 23 Heavygate Ave.
father's occupation: Boiler firer
Hugh 
This confirms what Hugh has found from the school records on this site.
Alton, Lucy Carter (Student, dob 30 Mar 1918).
Parent or guardian name(s): ~ (~), of 23 Heavygate Ave.
Admitted to Bole Hill School, Bole Hill Rd, Walkley, Sheffield, as of 01 Apr 1927, until 01 Oct 1930, reason for leaving: Left District. Previously attended Bole Hill Junior Dept.
1911 census for Amelia RUDDIFORTH/ ALTON/ CARTER
RUDDIFORTH, William Henry Head Widower M 60 1851 Table Blade Buffer Sheffield
RUDDIFORTH, William Son Single M 13 1898 Errand Boy Sheffield
RUDDIFORTH, Alfred Son Single M 11 1900 School Sheffield
RUDDIFORTH, Walter Son Single M 5 1906 School Sheffield
RUDDIFORTH, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Brewry Bottle Washer Dep Sheffield
ALTON, Amelia Daughter Married2 years F 24 1887 Sheffield
ALTON, Reginald Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Electro Plates Sheffield
RG number: RG14 Piece: 27832
Reference: RG14PN27832 RG78PN1593 RD509 SD7 ED2 SN182
Sub District: Broomhall
Address: 108 Wellington St Sheffield
Angela
Had to stick my nose in a little here....LOL
but thought you might be interested in a few observations...
Heavygate Ave, is one of my old stomping grounds so know it very very well as both my father and his parents and my mother and hers lived there as did I until aged 9.
It was a Corporation Estate built in the very early 1920's mum was born there in 1921. #67. Dad was at # 47 after his family were moved from Bastock Rd. The houses in the last 20years+ became available for purchase and one of my brothers now lives in one of my grandparents house.
Easy to find on Google Earth though I couldn't make number 23 out though its towards the top of the Ave on the left hand side
going up the avenue. From Google earth you get a good idea of the view looking towards Stannington.
Bole Hill School was about a five min walk away. Was a community center when I last saw it in 2005. I believe it was built in 1894. The children now go to Burgoyne Rd School & Myers Grove Comp.
Elaine in Ottawa.
Skype Big thanks to everyone. The information re. the names Alton and Ruddeforth have openened up a whole mass of information for me. Seems Amelia had 3 Children with Reginald Alton before he was killed on the Somme and a further 4 (including Lucy) with Benjamin Carter. The fact that they did not marry until 1930 meant that the children were all known as Alton until after the marriage. Any help with Benjamin Carter would be gratefully accepted. Thenks again.
hello Daryl,
Do you know when and where Benjamin was born? Also where and when he died? Was he a soldier in WW1?
Hugh
Only reference to Benjamin Carter that I can find on Ancestry, is his marriage to Amelia Alton in 1930. Family believed that he was from Sheffield, but unsure. Can find no reference to his death. Difficult to trace him without census after 1911.
John
I think obtaining the marriage certificate,is a good idea.
Kind regards Brian.
Just received a copy of the marriage certificate of Benjamin Carter and Amelia Alton. Fathers name Edward Benjamin Carter (Hammer Driver).
Benjamin a widower on marriage in 1930 (age 53).
Amelia Alton (maiden name Ruddiforth (age 43).
I think your suggestion that Benjamins previous marriage was to Florence Harriet Mycock who died in 1926, was correct and that he was already separated when he moved in with Amelia and started a new family in 1918.
More investigating for me. Many thanks and will let you know what I find.
Daryl
This looks like Benjamin in 1911 which states he was born in Sheffield he is with his first wife.
CARTER, Benjamin Head Married17 years M 35 1876 Steel Labourer Firths Sheffield
CARTER, Florance H Wife Married F 35 1876 Sheffield
CARTER, Ethel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Sheffield
MYCOCK, Jane E Relative Widow F 61 1850 Drewsbury
RG number: RG14 Piece: 27997
Registration District: Sheffield
Sub District: Attercliffe
Address: 129 Leigh ST
1901 census
CARTER, Benjamin Head Married M 25 1876 Labourer In Factory Sheffield, YKS
CARTER, Florence H Wife Married F 25 1876 Sheffield, Yorkshire
CARTER, Ethel Daughter Single F 6 1895 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Piece: 4379 Folio: 120 Page: 9
Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Address: 8, 4, Court House, Saville Street, Brightside Bierlow
1891 living with his grandparents.
CARTER, William Head Married M 61 1830 Herbalist Staffordshire,Princess End
CARTER, Mary Wife Married F 56 1835 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
CARTER, Benjeman Grandson Single M 15 1876 Sheffield, Yorkshire
Piece: 3834 Folio: 126 Page: 38
Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Address: 16, Attercliffe Road, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield
Angela