Hugh
Thanks very much for this interesting information! This sounds like it probably is my ancestor, even though he was living in Eldon Street at the time. They were connected with at least one other family on Lambert street at the time, and another possibility is that maybe he worked out of Lambert street at the time of the offence. I mentioned Walter the father (b1806) who I think committed this offence, and Walter the son (b about 1840) - both cutlters. But there was a grandson, Frederick Walter (b 1865) who was arrested at a race course (his fourth larceny offence I think) and died of injuries sustained between arrest and arriving in prison. I think that this family had some hard times!
Thanks so much for this information.
Regards, Judy

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Marlene and Barry
Thanks for this information. Now it is beginning to make sense. Small-scale renting of space within bigger premises, or working in the back of home premises, may have been feasible. I haven't yet got to investigating causes of death but I have noted that this line of the family doesn't have much longevity. I'll look out for silicosis in the cutlers. Thanks once again,
Regards, Judy

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Hi Judy,
If you haven't already done so I'd look at the several headings in the columns to the left where you'll find lots of OATES information including burials. Under directories there are a couple of references to Walter OATES.
Regards,
Marlene

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If Walter was a true Cutler the archivist at the Cutlers' Hall may be able to help you. I believe they have a list of apprentices and masters.

Also, I have been reading the history of Ranmoor and there are many "little mesters" working from home and workshops who had a beerhouse or were publicans.

Thanks, Marlene. I have been using this magnificent set of resources and found out quite a bit. I'm also trying not to be distracted by what I think to be some errors in family histories on Ancestry that seem to have been repeated. I'm really enjoying doing the research from South Australia and sending it through to my relatives in Barrow in Furness!
Judy, South Australia

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Hi Judy,
Don't believe all you see on Ancestry until you can prove it for yourself.
It's difficult when you're as far away as Australia, I also have relatives researching my Aspinall lines in Australia, I have a 3x great grandfather who was transported there from Sheffield in 1834 and he married and produced a family over there so many relatives are descended and are eager to find English information. Unfortunately, some of the information you see on Ancestry trees needs to be confirmed before you accept it.
Just be careful and prove as you go, it's easy to get carried away and finish up going down blind alleys!
Regards,
Marlene

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