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I am looking for what happened Elizabeth hanby after 1861 which is the last time she appeared on a census,with her father Henry,mother Eliza (white) and sister Hannah maria,we are uncertain but we think she married someone who's surname was Hague.If this is so we believe that the granddaughter living with Henry/Eliza Hanby,in 1881 aged 9yrs is her daughter can anyone help
Paul
I must agrre with you,I thought that the Granddaughter Eliza Ann Hague was very relevant- living with Elizabeth Hanby's parents on the 1881 - aged 9.
On the 1871 census there is a Henry Hague aged 30 labourer in steel fiurnace born in Sheffield,
With wife Elizabeth aged 29 born in Maboro Yorkshire.
They have no chiuldren with them on the census,and are living at Obsborne St court Brrightside Sheffield.
The 1871 census referance is piece 4691
folio 127 page 18.
I spotted this entry a while ago,but as yet ,I have not found the marriage.
Hope this is of interest - kind regards Brian.
it looks as if that Henry Hague may have remarried by 1881
He is still on Oborne Street with a wife named Fanny and a daughter Lillie age 0 RG11 Piece: 4657 Folio: 148 Page: 38
I can't find that marriage either.
There's a plausible death for Elizabeth Hague age 37 in Q3 1878 Vol 9c p336
Caroline
correction marriage to Fanny WOOD 4th qtr 1879 Sheffield 9c p459
John
Your logic is very sound on this,but as yet I have found nothing to suggest a first Marriage for Elizabeth Hanby.
Kind regards Brian.
John
Because Elizabeth Ann Hague appears on the 1881 census as aged 9 -(granddaughter) of Henry and Eliza Hanby.
Upon looking for a Elizabeth Hague - Henry and Eliza's daughter (Hanby) on the 1871 census ,I came across Henry Hague aged 30 b Sheffield ,labourer in steel furnce.
And wife Elizabeth Hague- aged 29 b Masboro Yorkshire
Living at Osborne St Court Brightside.
Kind regards Brian.
John
At the moment it is an assuption that Elizabeth Hanby - married Henry Hague.
And on the 1871 census- Henry Hagues wife- Elizabeth is down as b in Masboro Yorkshire,as was Elizabeth Hanby.
Kind regards Brian.
Henry Hanby and Eliza White didn't marry until 1845 so Elizabeth may have been a stepdaughter and may have married using the name White (or something else entirely)
Caroline
edit: there's a Charles Hague and Elizabeth White on the same page in Rotherham in 4th qtr 1863 9c p698. And the other 2 names definitely married each other.
edit2: I think I've found Charles & ELizabeth HAgue in 1881 - Elizabeth's birthplace is Wentworth in 1841 and there's not much room to add another child into the list of the ones they have. RG11 Piece: 467 Folio:17 Page: 28 so it's unlikely to be the one we are looking for.
thanks for for your reply aa lot of the info i have recieved may make sense as to why things about elizabeth hanby are amiss within the family bible and can confirm she was born in masbro-rotherham in about 1843,I am awaiting the arrival from the sheffield town hall for the birth certificate of the granddaughter and hope to give more info when I do.
One other piece of info that may help my great grand walter hanby who married a sarah ann gobby in 1895 had thier marriage certificate wittnessed by a frank hague but have no idea who he is
Paul
What detail did the family bible hold ? ,and are there any other useful bits of info you have on the family - in question.
Kindest regards Brian.
the bible gave names and birth/death dates of several family members and who they belonged to,though thier were 2 names with who we only had birth dates,these have since been traced to walter/sara ann (gobby)hanby who had 3 children who died between the ages of 6 mths and 13mnths, like you I have had to do some searches on the census,what I can tell is that Henry hanby died in 1887 and that eliza never remarried and died in 1896 a year after walter got married.from talking to elder family members the hanby family lived at 89,corby st for nearly 100 years.
further to tracing eliza hague through her life I know she does not appear on the 1901 census but found someone with the same name who died in 1907 am trying to check this out ?
Paul
I have Eliza Ann Hague as being born in Sheffield in the second qtr of 1871.
The death you have of a Eliza Ann Hague in the last qtr of 1907 - has her age on death as (38).
So the maths doesn't quite work,although we do know that errors can be quite common.
Kind regards Brian.
yes I can see where your coming from, I agree about the year of birth for eliza ann hague, birth certificate not arrived in todays post,will let you know when it does,So the mystery is where was she in 1901,when she would have been about 29/30 years old.I know from the census upto and including 1911 she was not living with any of her hanby relations at 89,corby st.
What's the situation with frank hague and are these people related to you.
There's a different Eliza Ann Hague in the 1891 & 1901 census who is the right age for that death record (b~1869).
She was the wife of Andrew Hague who was a widower by 1911.
Hi Paul
not sure where Frank Hague fits in yet,I am not related to any of the Hague's.
It's highly likely Frank is part of the family in question,but that bit of the jigaaw ,will fit in at a later stage - I hope.
Kind regards Brian.
The fact Eliza Ann Hague is missing on the 1901,is probably down to mistranscription.
Kind regards Brian.
She was the wife of Andrew Hague who was a widower by 1911.
That would be Eliza Ann Rodger who married Andrew Hague in Sheffield in 1888.
Kind regards Brian.
hi Brian,
thats fine we'll just have to wait till get receive eliza ann hagues birth certificate hopefully in the next few days.
paul
Caroline,
In response to your recent relply reference elizabeth hanby to I have found seem plorsable that she did marry henry hague in 1869 and died in 1878 at oborne street,sheffield.henry re-married in 1879 to fanny wood, and had 4 children, living also on oborne street.henry died in 1893,and fanny and the children then moved to marshall street,sheffield where the appear on the 1901 and 1911 census.
paul h