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Hi Does anyone have any of the following information
the birth date and parents of George Wheatcroft born circa 1851 in Sheffield he Married a Elizabeth Godbehere Oct - Dec 1872 in Sheffield and died in Jan - Mar 1891.
Elizabeth Godbehere who were her parents? she was born circa 1857 and died Jul - Sept 1922 in Ecclesall
Lucy thier daughter Born circa 1878, I can not find any information about her after the 1881 census, they were living with a George Newby at 2 Sands Paviours
Sheffield.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello Fred,
I found the following and wonder if it is your family:
1891 Census, 1ct 1h Robertshaw St, Sheffield.
Elizabeth Wheatcroft Head Wid.34yrs.
Annie Wheatcroft Daug S. 16yrs. Horn handle finisher.
Elizabeth Wheatcroft Daug S. 13yrs. Scholar.
Clara Wheatcroft Daug 8yrs. Scholar.
Alice Wheatcroft Daug 4yrs. Scholar.
Rosa Wheatcroft Daug 2yrs.
All born Sheffield.
If this is your family Lucy now seems to be called
Elizabeth.
On this site found the following burials:
George Wheatcroft (Lic. porter age 39).
Died at 1ct Robertshaw Street.
Bur. 22 Jan 1891 at City Rd. Cemetery.
Also in the same grave is William Arthur Wheatcroft
(child age 15mo).
Died at 1ct Robertshaw St.
Bur. 21 Feb. 1888.
Kind regards,
Moira.
Isn't this the right Elizabeth in 1861 census as year of birth has been amended to 1857? Parents would have been too young to have a 11 year old. She is also on the 1871 as 13 so age was wrong in 1861 census.
Elizabeth Godbehere
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
[1857]
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Godbehere
Mother's name: Sarah Godbehere
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Moorfields
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 3486
Folio: 98
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Godbehere 25
Sarah Godbehere 23
Elizabeth Godbehere 11
Ruth Haigh 24
1871 census - Back Sydney Rd. Sheffield, Nether Hallam.
Henry Godbyhere Head Mar 33yrs Pen & pocket blade
smither.
Sarah Godbyhere Wife Mar 33yrs.
Elizabeth Godbyhere Daughter 13yrs.
William Godbyhere Son 10yrs.
Sarah Ann Godbyhere Daughter 5yrs.
All born Sheffield.
(RG10/4665).
Kind regards,
Moira.
Hi Moira,
Thank you very much for both your very kind replies to my question, Sorry I have not replied sooner my computer is playing silly devils or I have lost the plot all my E mails have vanished from my screen and I have just found your replies hile searching the Sheffield web site.
I am now looking for George wheatcroft birth c1852, I have just recieved a copy marriage certificate of George Wheatcroft aged 21and Elizabeth Godbehere aged 19 in sheffield, and his daughter Lucy born 1878 in Sheffield
no trace of her after the 1881 census.
Have you any idea why the town of Sheffield does not appear in the Yorkshire BMD web site.
I hope that you can help me again with this problem.
Many thanks once again.
My very best wishes.
Fred Wheatcroft.
Hello Fred,
On the marriage certificate of George Wheatcroft to
Elizabeth, does it give the name of George's father?
Also, on FreeBMD between 1876 and 1880 there is no
Lucy Wheatcroft registered but there is a Sarah Elizabeth Wheatcroft March Q 1878.
I'm beginning to think that they just gave the wrong
name on the 1881 census.
Kind regards,
Moira.
.Fred Wheatcroft.
Hello Fred.
Sheffield register office decided to go alone on transcribing their own indexes. Sheffield & District FHS are doing the transcribing and we upload them 1 year at a time to the register office website.
http://libplugins.sheffield.gov.uk/bmd/Home.aspx
Angela
Hi Moira,
On the marriage certificate of George Wheatcroft his fathers name is given as William Wheatcroft he lived at 2 Sands Paviours Sheffield.
The only George Wheatcroft with the a father mane william was born in Belper Derbyshirebut The george I am looking for was occording to the 1881 census was born in Sheffield but he was living with a George Newby,
Many thanks for your very kind assistance with my research.
My very best wishes.
Fred Wheatcroft.
Hello Fred,
Just out of interest, I had a look at the 1841 census.
Rockingham Lane, Sheffield, Ecclesall Bierlow
William Wheatcroft 30yrs Carter No
His age has been transcribed as 35yrs, but it looks to me as though it has been altered to 30yrs.
Ann Wheatcroft 25yrs Y
Elizt. Wheatcroft 6yrs Y
Mary Wheatcroft 4yrs Y
Lucy Wheatcroft 1yr Y
As you can see, it has William born out of the county
but Ann born in the county. This is at odds with the 1851 census that Brian found.
Kind regards,
Moira.
Hi Brian,
Thank you very much for both of your very kind replies
I will shace this up but from what you have said it looks very likely the william I am looking for at lease his son George matches with the George I have.
My best wishes.
Fred Wheatcroft.
Hi Moira,
Thanks very much for your latest information, as I have just wrote to Brian Iam sure this is the william that I am looking for.
My best wishes.
Fred Wheatcroft
Fred
I did email you the census image for -1851,I do hope you have received this ok.
I still think that Moiras 1841 census - detail is quite relevant,given the - general year of birth deviations,and places of birth,as I said previously can often be ,at odds with later census material.
Kind regards Brian.
Hello Brian and Fred,
I'm now at a bit of a loss re the Lucy/Elizabeth problem. In 1881 the Wheatcrofts have a daughter Lucy aged 3yrs. By 1891 there is no Lucy but a daughter
Elizabeth aged 13yrs.
On Free BMD I have searched all the Wheatcroft births between 1875 and 1883. No Lucy or Elizabeth.
There is one Lucy in DecQ 1877 but she is registered
in Newark. In the DecQ 1878 there is a Louisa Elizabeth
registered in Ecclesall B.
I think the only way to solve this is to find a baptism.
Kind regards,
Moira.