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abortion rights and the right to choose

sorry for starting this before x mass dont want to start arguments or fights but every time i see people feeling sorry for them selfs it comes to my mind how so few have stood up for those who cant do it for them self.there have been about 45 million abortions in the usa.less than 1% of them were for rape,incest,or conditions that endanger the mothers life or where the child would be born with serious issues .so that leaves a lot of abortions that were done for the following reasons or choices i should say.lack of responsiblity and making all the wrong choices.
you choose to have unprotected sex no condom,no spermicide,no pill,no morning after pill, no getting fixed which can be undone nothing .people who do this seem to make all the wrong choices not just women but men also complete lack of responsiblity .then they make the final choice to kill a child .now many people will say its not a child but just a clump of cells at 3 months .if you feel that way maybe you need to go look at a 3 month old fetus and think about it some more it sure looks like a human to me.have you ever seem where the 3 month old fetus fights to avoid the hook ?put the child up for adoption let it live its the right thing to do for the child and for your soul.think about it please it is your choice start out with good ones ,parents talk to your kids it could be your grandchild your saving.

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the answer is simple, if you don't believe in abortion, do not have one! if you don't like brussel sprouts, don't buy or eat them. it is a choice that is none of your business, unless of course you want to live in a socialist country. then you can support the president and health care reform which would really help people. thanks!

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So; the baby doesn't get a choice?
It's a baby. Abortion is murder, plain and simple.
There is a heaven and a hell. If you say you don't believe in it doesn't make it not so.

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duchessdd3
the answer is simple, if you don't believe in abortion, do not have one! if you don't like brussel sprouts, don't buy or eat them. it is a choice that is none of your business, unless of course you want to live in a socialist country. then you can support the president and health care reform which would really help people. thanks!


actually the answer is very simple most people it seems who have abortions make a long series of poor choices to start with . inoring procedures to prevent pregency that are reversable are there for men and women ,then again spermicide,condoms ,inserts for women,the pill,the morning after pill,then when they become pregnet it seems a lot easier to kill a baby them let it live and give it up for adoption.it shows a clear pattern of poor choices and lack of responsiblity it is that simple.

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I am against abortion .It has become almost a casual decision that women make because they are ignorant to the simple action called "Birthcontrol".In the cases of incest and rape I do beleive that abortion is acceptable, but not always necessary, depending on that womans decision in each case, and only when done immediately like with the morning after pill. I am sure that my opinion wont go over well with alot of you, but its my opinion nonetheless.I wish more people would accept responsibility of their own actions.

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God Bless You sideshowbob, and We'll All see, also PCHS MOM for being so loving, and for caring so deeply for all the little unwanted babies. {Abortion, the act of mis-carrying, or producing young before the natural time, or before the fetus is at a viable stage; the product of untimely birth; a misshapen being; a monster; anything which fails before it is matured or perfect, as a design.} I am against abortion.
I feel that both, the man as well as the woman should be held accountable if they have their baby aborted. Before becoming intimate, all couples should be responsible enough to use some form of birth control. Then their wouldn't be anymore unwanted pregnancies, and no more little innocent babies to murder.

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yes snowflake i do agree ,but i dont have a issue with abortion when there are certain things that are in place such as rape ,incest,moms health or the quality of life a child could have to indure when born with severe physical or mental imparments but when i say servee i mean servere.you are correct that the choice starts when people decide to have sex in the first place.this is why im a firm beliver in parents tlking to the kids about birth control aka getting fixed,now a days its reversable between that a condom and spremicide there woould be almost no unwanted babies.ive been carefull over the years i have no natural kids becuse i knew it wasnt for me.here i am in a contest to see who the bigger idiot is and even i have enough common sense to know what good choices are in this area.

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Only in cases of rape, incest, or if the baby is apt to be abnormal or the mother's life is in jeopardy should abortions be performed. Everything else is murder.

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Let a couple that cant have a child have it don't kill it. It is a Child no matter how you look at it. There are a lot of people that would take the baby. Give it a home not a grave.

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it is very interesting how many people are wanting to be told how to live their lives. i'm sure you'll have no problems finding takers for that position. they can tell you how to get rid of your guns, what and how much to eat, decide what music, books, news stories are available. and they will certainly tell you what you can and cannot do on a computer! that must be a load off your very taxed brains. just sit back and let someone else run your life. once you begin to take away one right, it becomes nothing for the others to errode. hard to believe letting blacks and women vote inspired the same kind of panic as the choice to control your own body. well, maybe i won't have to see anymore saggy a$$ pants and piercings all over my waiter or waitresses face and mouth anymore, if you get your way. whew!! now what to do with all of this extra time?? oh well, i'm sure somebody will tell me!

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dutchess PLEASEEEEEE! There is a huge difference between what you have talked about and a baby! What is ignorant is the fact that people think they can play God and just decide to kill a baby just because they do not want the responsibility. First and foremost, keep your darn legs closed if you don't want a baby and secondly if you can't do that, then you better figure out what birth control means! What really gags me is those of you who holler all the time about RIGHTS RIGHTS RIGHTS and you are more than hypocrytical. Babies can't speak for themselves even after they are born, but I guess because they can't talk it should still be ok to kill them too should you feel that they aren't up to your standards or become too much of a burden. Like the lady that decided the other day that her baby was just crying too much so she goes and boils a huge pot of water and then drops the baby down in it. Not to mention the part where she burnt the baby with cigarrettes too. That baby was still alive last I heard. Let us just deem what is right and HOW to kill each unborn or BORN child ourselves. We are GOD and we do know best right?

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To Duchess, This is about the right to live,not earrings or tattoos. Try and focus on the topic {which is abortion}

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duchessdd3
it is very interesting how many people are wanting to be told how to live their lives. i'm sure you'll have no problems finding takers for that position. they can tell you how to get rid of your guns, what and how much to eat, decide what music, books, news stories are available. and they will certainly tell you what you can and cannot do on a computer! that must be a load off your very taxed brains. just sit back and let someone else run your life. once you begin to take away one right, it becomes nothing for the others to errode. hard to believe letting blacks and women vote inspired the same kind of panic as the choice to control your own body. well, maybe i won't have to see anymore saggy a$$ pants and piercings all over my waiter or waitresses face and mouth anymore, if you get your way. whew!! now what to do with all of this extra time?? oh well, i'm sure somebody will tell me!

HONEY IF YOU CANT KEEP YOUR LEGS CROSSED THEN AT LEAST THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN ,ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.

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Why did murder ever become a lifestyle option?

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please try to read and comprehend the WHOLE message. pchs mom, i have found your remarks to usually be rational and well thought out. i realize this is a passionate subject and i appreciate your veiwpoint. however, when you stop follwing the rules of debate and arugument and become emotional, you have essentially given up. my point, for clarification, is that is you let the gov't, religion, groups of people decide FOR YOU what you can and cannot do with your body, other rights will dissapear also. maybe the gov't decides socoal security cards are worthless and instead tatoo numbers on our arms. or perhaps, everyone should have a micro processor in there head so their every action can be monitored. how about only baby boys are decided to be necessary to be born. my point is you are playing with fire when you start impossing laws on peoples bodies. there needs to be a better way. we are never going to stop sex, thank goodness. but we should try to educate about birtcontrol and parents should always, daily, be teaching responsibilities and consequences of behavior, cause and effect. i don't want to fight, i want constructive dialoge.. merry christmas and the best for you and all of your loved ones.

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its not about imposing laws on peoples bodies its about the unborn childs rights who speaks for them

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i tried to politely put to rest my end of this, why can't you? ssb, you have given me some of the best laughs, tough things to think about, and presented educated view points i found worth my time to consider. for that, thank you. as i have said before, on other posts, i don't know people here despite living here more than 2 years. i have enjoyed meeting people on here, it can be very stimulating at times. if you would like to get to know me better my email adress is duchessdd3@netscape.net. i would like that and enjoy talking with you.

as for my stance on CHOICE, i will not back off. educate, teach responsibility, enforce consequences, and above all else, provide birthcontrol beause sex will never stop. my body is my own, what is in my body, weather it's a zygote or atypical cells, how i choose to treat it is mine. you don't seem to get excited about how i treat atypical cells. what if they turn out be cancer and i choose to do nothing and die. have i killed someone?

please. let's just agree to disagree. there are so many other topics we can have 'fun' with! wink wink
!have a wonderful day and enjoy some sunshine for me, please! merry Christmas!

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What ticks me off is all the animal rights people who talk about how the poor animals have no voice and we need to stick up for them and save them from being euthanized. That's all well and good, but someone needs to stick up for the unborn babies who are being murdered. They have no voice either. If they could speak I know what their answer would be if you asked them if they wanted to be killed. I think women who use abortion as a form of birth control should be spayed!

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and the men who knock them up catrated!!!! why aren't the men wearing condoms? spreading a fatal disease to 2 people is atrocious! but not murder. why is that?

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duchesss3
and the men who knock them up catrated!!!! why aren't the men wearing condoms? spreading a fatal disease to 2 people is atrocious! but not murder. why is that?


as i said men can be fixed also and i encourage it .you want to castrate them which is something totally differnt you seem to hate men ,and as i said condoms should be used if a man is thoughtless enough to not have one you can offer to give him one ,if neither of you have one go to the store if you cant go to the store ,THEN DONT HAVE SEX USE THAT THING ON TOP OF YOUR SHOULDERS.again its not hard to figure it out .its a simple choice which most liberals cant make till its to late.

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civil, polite, and truce totally elude you don't they? i so adore men it makes life worth living!!! like i offeresd earlier, email me . . . . duchessdd3@netscape.net. i will truthfully answer any questins you have. please enjoy this day is the spirit in which it is intended. share the love, dude

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You all should listen to Duchesss 3.

I stated her same position before. I find it so very interesting that all these folks who want the government to stay out of our lives and even our health care are so quick to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body and want to allow the government to be part of our bedrooms.

And any way you slice it a fetus is still a part of her body and a parasite on her to boot.

You will never stop abortion anyway no matter what the laws. Abortion pills, going to other countries or just getting back room abortions will always be an option.

Get off your high horses and quit being so misogynous. If we men had babies there would be no discussion.

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joel its not a matter of telling a woman what she can or cant do with her body its a matter of ending a life that cant speak for its self no one to help it just a hook as its draged out left to die in a bloody trash can .ive worked in health care and see a 10 week old fetus if you see one it would be hard to say its just a clump of cells it tries to get away from the hook .i dont care what any woman wants to do with her body its hers but that baby growing inside a woman has its own life its own soul and till the day i die ill be against abortion except for a few exception.that baby isnt a toe nail its alive its human and abortions take place up to 30 weeks. id any woman wants to screw up her body its cool with me im all for a humans rights to make decisions but when a woman decides to have a abortion shes not making a decision that will kill her but a baby .

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duchesss3
civil, polite, and truce totally elude you don't they? i so adore men it makes life worth living!!! like i offeresd earlier, email me . . . . duchessdd3@netscape.net. i will truthfully answer any questins you have. please enjoy this day is the spirit in which it is intended. share the love, dude

i surely think your answer are sencire and honest i disagree with you on abortion but am sure id enjoy talking to you just like joel im sure we diasgee on issues but hes a good man .

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i personally dont believe in abortion i think if they dont want kids then they shouldnt have sex!

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I agree Duchess to disagree, but just as you have a right to an opinion, I have the right to get emotional and I do not think out my replies on here I react exactly to the effect of how I feel about something and my own stance on it. I care less to how my replies are taken,at least to the effect that I dont intentionally try to be nasty.I believe in God but I havent been to church in years. I believe that each life is its own small miracle regardless of how it came to be or whether it is welcomed. So from there I agree to disagree with regards to your own insight.

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Where did they go in the first place to get baby killing legalized? The GOVERNMENT AND LAW!

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BUT!
Where did they go in the first place to get baby killing legalized? The GOVERNMENT AND LAW!

yes that is correct sadly we voted in the people who voted this in

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