What the Pelosi Health-Care Bill Really Says
Here are some important passages in the 2,000 page legislation.


By BETSY MCCAUGHEY

The health bill that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is bringing to a vote (H.R. 3962) is 1,990 pages. Here are some of the details you need to know.

What the government will require you to do:

• Sec. 202 (p. 91-92) of the bill requires you to enroll in a "qualified plan." If you get your insurance at work, your employer will have a "grace period" to switch you to a "qualified plan," meaning a plan designed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. If you buy your own insurance, there's no grace period. You'll have to enroll in a qualified plan as soon as any term in your contract changes, such as the co-pay, deductible or benefit.

• Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.



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On Nov. 2, the Congressional Budget Office estimated what the plans will likely cost. An individual earning $44,000 before taxes who purchases his own insurance will have to pay a $5,300 premium and an estimated $2,000 in out-of-pocket expenses, for a total of $7,300 a year, which is 17% of his pre-tax income. A family earning $102,100 a year before taxes will have to pay a $15,000 premium plus an estimated $5,300 out-of-pocket, for a $20,300 total, or 20% of its pre-tax income. Individuals and families earning less than these amounts will be eligible for subsidies paid directly to their insurer.

• Sec. 303 (pp. 167-168) makes it clear that, although the "qualified plan" is not yet designed, it will be of the "one size fits all" variety. The bill claims to offer choice—basic, enhanced and premium levels—but the benefits are the same. Only the co-pays and deductibles differ. You will have to enroll in the same plan, whether the government is paying for it or you and your employer are footing the bill.

• Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.

• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a "qualified plan" for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less.

Eviscerating Medicare:

In addition to reducing future Medicare funding by an estimated $500 billion, the bill fundamentally changes how Medicare pays doctors and hospitals, permitting the government to dictate treatment decisions.

• Sec. 1302 (pp. 672-692) moves Medicare from a fee-for-service payment system, in which patients choose which doctors to see and doctors are paid for each service they provide, toward what's called a "medical home."

The medical home is this decade's version of HMO-restrictions on care. A primary-care provider manages access to costly specialists and diagnostic tests for a flat monthly fee. The bill specifies that patients may have to settle for a nurse practitioner rather than a physician as the primary-care provider. Medical homes begin with demonstration projects, but the HHS secretary is authorized to "disseminate this approach rapidly on a national basis."

A December 2008 Congressional Budget Office report noted that "medical homes" were likely to resemble the unpopular gatekeepers of 20 years ago if cost control was a priority.

• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.

• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country. This will reduce payments for care (and by implication the standard of care) for hospital patients in higher cost areas such as New York and Florida.

• Sec. 1161 (pp. 520-545) cuts payments to Medicare Advantage plans (used by 20% of seniors). Advantage plans have warned this will result in reductions in optional benefits such as vision and dental care.

• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of "medical items and services."

Questionable Priorities:

While the bill will slash Medicare funding, it will also direct billions of dollars to numerous inner-city social work and diversity programs with vague standards of accountability.

• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community "entities" with no required qualifications except having "documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers" to "educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities" aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. "Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program."

These programs will "enhance the capacity of individuals to utilize health services and health related social services under Federal, State and local programs by assisting individuals in establishing eligibility . . . and in receiving services and other benefits" including transportation and translation services.

• Sec. 222 (p. 617) provides reimbursement for culturally and linguistically appropriate services. This program will train health-care workers to inform Medicare beneficiaries of their "right" to have an interpreter at all times and with no co-pays for language services.

• Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437) establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should "give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population." And secondary-school grants should go to schools "graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities."

• Sec. 305 (p. 189) Provides for automatic Medicaid enrollment of newborns who do not otherwise have insurance.

For the text of the bill with page numbers, see www.defendyourhealthcare.us.

Ms. McCaughey is chairman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and a former Lt. Governor of New York state.

Health Care Passes House

The Woodward Report ^ | November 7, 2009 | Brian Woodward

Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:56:16 PM by honestabe010

In a historic vote the House Health Care Bill Passed the House of Representatives 220 - 215 with 64 Democrats voting against the measure. However, the true test of whether it can pass the senate still looms. With a test vote losing out 47-53 a few weeks ago over the Baucus Bill, much persuasion must be had in the Senate for a bill to arrive at the President’s desk...



Here We Go Again: Rostenkowski, Health Care and the Original Town-Hall Protest (2010 Repeal??)

Big Government ^ | November 7, 2009 | Publius

Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:15:05 PM by TenthAmendmentChampion

Back in 1989, the Democrat House, led by Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, passed the ‘Catastrophic Health Care Act.’ The Act promised to expand coverage and benefits, financed by a surcharge on senior’s existing Medicare benefits. Passage of the Act sparked on outcry from seniors. CBSNews goes back into the archives to find footage of one of the protests.

The report forgets to mention that Congress quickly repealed the Catastrophic Act in response to the voter backlash. Something current Members of Congress might want to keep in mind.

The problem for today’s Democrats is that the PelosiCare bill they are being pressured to support has a lot more to anger seniors than just a modest surcharge. Between the cuts to Medicare and numerous higher taxes, more people will lose under this bill than gain. That’s very dangerous politics. Again, if a small surcharge, in exchange for more benefits, was enough to spark protests that rattled on Old Bull like Rostenkowski, imagine the backlash when seniors realize they will lose lots of benefits in exchange for…nothing. Rostenkowski was genuinely surprised by the protests. After Tuesday’s elections results, however, Democrats can’t say they weren’t warned.

Below is a list of the cuts to Medicare contained within PelosiCare:



Sweeping Health Care Plan Passes House

NYTimes ^ | November 07th, 2009

Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:36:29 PM by Steelfish

Sweeping Health Care Plan Passes House

Luke Sharrett/The New York Times Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in Washington on Saturday.

By CARL HULSE and ROBERT PEAR November 7, 2009

WASHINGTON — Handing President Obama a hard-fought victory, the House narrowly approved a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s health care system on Saturday, advancing legislation that the Democrats said could be their defining social policy achievement.

After a daylong clash with Republicans over what has been a Democratic goal for decades, lawmakers voted 220 to 215 to approve a plan that would cost $1.1 trillion over 10 years and that Democrats said would provide relief to Americans struggling to buy or hold on to health insurance.

“This is our moment to revolutionize health care in this country,” said Representative George Miller, Democrat of California and one of the chief architects of the bill.

House passes sweeping healthcare overhaul

Reuters ^ | Nov. 8 , 2009 | John Whitesides and Donna Smith

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:51:55 AM by bogusname

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House of Representatives approved a sweeping healthcare reform bill on Saturday, backing the biggest health policy changes in four decades and handing President Barack Obama a crucial victory.

House Narrowly Passes Historic Health Care Bill

Politics Daily ^ | 7/11/09 | Patricia Murphy

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:43:16 AM by Eleutheria5

The U.S. House of Representatives narrowly passed a massive overhaul of the American health care system Saturday night by a vote of 220 to 215. One Republican, Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana, crossed the aisle, while 39 Democrats joined the Republicans in opposing the measure.

Landmark Health Insurance Bill Passes House [Obama Wants Bill On His Desk This Year]

AP Report ^ | November 07th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:56:12 AM by Steelfish

Landmark Health Insurance Bill Passes House Tough fight still ahead in Senate, and two versions have wide differences

WASHINGTON - In a victory for President Barack Obama, the Democratic-controlled House narrowly passed landmark health care legislation to expand coverage to tens of millions who lack it and place tough new restrictions on the insurance industry.

The final vote was 220-215. Only one Republican — Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana — voted for the measure; 39 Democrats voted against it.

Obama praised the House in a statement and said he is "absolutely confident" that the Senate will pass its version of the legislation. "I look forward to signing it into law by the end of the year," he said.



Yeas & Nays for HR 3962 (Pelosi Care)

U.S. House of Representatives Roll Call Votes ^ | 11/7/09

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:42:55 AM by dajeeps

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 887 (Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

H R 3962 RECORDED VOTE 7-Nov-2009 11:16 PM QUESTION: On Passage BILL TITLE: Affordable Health Care for America Act

Ayes Noes PRES NV Democratic 219 39 Republican 1 176 Independent TOTALS 220 215



House Of Health Care Representatives

Forbes ^ | 11/7/2009 | Brian Wingfield

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:44:25 AM by bruinbirdman

It is a historic vote--never before has the chamber passed such sweeping health care legislation--but not the historic vote that would send the bill to President Obama for his signature. The Senate must still vote on its own version of health care reform. If that passes, the two chambers would have to sort out their differences, producing a final bill to be voted on. That whole process could take months.

PALIN LAMBASTS PELOSI FOR "RAMMING" HEALTH CARE REFORM THROUGH AT MIDNIGHT

TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 11/08/2009 | Gary P.

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:14:56 AM by Patriot1259

“The same government leaders that got us into the mortgage business and the car business are now getting us into the health care business.



THE 39 DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED AGAINST PELOSI'S HEALTH CARE BILL

THE FREEDOM POST ^ | November 7, 2009 | TheCapitalist

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:32:25 AM by TheFreedomPoster

Below are the 39 House Democrats who voted for Pelosi's health care reform bill on Nov. 7, 2009. They should be thanked for their display of conviction, patriotism, courage, and for voting their principles while under considerable political pressure from the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party. These 39 Democrat representatives voted to respect the Constitution, respect individual and property rights, and voted against further expansion of an already out-of-control federal government...



Health plan adds billions in fees, taxes

NY Post ^ | November 8, 2009 | GEOFF EARLE and TIM PERONE

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:40:56 AM by Scanian

President Obama says his health-care overhaul -- which squeaked through the House last night -- won't hurt a bit, but taxpayers are going to feel it in their wallet.

The $1.2 trillion plan, which passed by a razor-thin 220 to 215, imposes new tax surcharges on Americans who fail to buy insurance as well as businesses that don't provide coverage to their employees.



D.C.'s 'Failure To Launch' National Health Care Policy

Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2009 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:47:10 AM by Kaslin

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee health care bill includes a provision that would allow parents to keep their children as dependents on their health care policies until age 26. Not to be outdone, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced last month that, as Congressional Quarterly reported, the House bill "will allow young people to stay on their parents' policies until age 27."

Do I hear age 28? Why not 30? As long as Washington is giving away private health care coverage, why not eliminate the age cap entirely? The House plan enjoys the support of a new group, "the Young Invincibles," an organization, Pelosi explained "formed to get young adults behind the campaign for health insurance reform."

Eureka. Pelosi has found the way to get young adults behind health care reform -- have mom and dad (or their employers) pay for it. Of course young adults are jumping on the bandwagon.



The true cost of ObamaCare

American Thinker ^ | 11-8-09 | James Simpson

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:00:27 AM by radioone

This legislation is not about healthcare, it is not about covering the few people who can legitimately be characterized as "uninsured." It is about raw political power pure and simple. The Communist from Chicago and his Congressional fellow travelers want to make sure the American public is under their collective thumbs in the most effective way possible: by having influence over our physical health.



Sarah Palin: The People Who Gave Us Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac Now Want To Run Health Care

Citizen Palin 4 President ^

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:56:33 AM by MaxCUA

Make no mistake: we’re on course to have government commandeer one-sixth of our economy. The people who gave us Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac now want to run our health care. Think about that.



ObamaCare Endorsements: What the Bribe Was

The Hill ^ | 11/6/2009 | Dick Morris, Eileen McGann

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:56:12 AM by GVnana

As the suicidal Democratic congressmen proceed to rubber-stamp the Obama healthcare reform despite the drubbing their party took in the ’09 elections, the president trotted out the endorsements of the AMA and the AARP to stimulate support. But these — and the other endorsements — his package has received are all bought and paid for. Here are the deals:



Abortion foes voting "yes" on health care bill were played

Washington Times-Water Cooler ^ | 11/8/09 | Kerry Picket

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:55:07 AM by paltz

H.R. 3962, America's Healthy Future Act, passed the House yesterday evening 215 to 220 after several hours of debate. Amid floor speeches, pro-life congressmen were also successful in writing in the pro-life oriented Stupak-Pitts amendment. Pro-life groups were excited over the passage of the amendment and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) urged the passage of the amendment.



Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns

FoxNews ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:58:52 AM by Steelfish

November 08, 2009

Democrats Face Electoral Backlash After Health Care Vote, Top Republican Warns



Health Care Passes: A Small Step for Nancy Pelosi, A Giant Leap for Despotism

Pajamas Media ^ | November 8 | Roger Kimball

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:11:35 PM by AJKauf

Minding your own business is not what the Obama administration or Nancy Pelosi is about. Lenin put it well 1917: “What socialism implies above all is keeping account of everything.” Last night, those who would be your masters in Washington took another step toward usurping one-sixth of the U.S. economy and arrogating to themselves control over your medical care. Here’s the question: are we sheep? Or are we free citizens?



ObamaCare: A Bad Deal for Young Adults (Rates double for 18-29 group)

CATO ^ | November 5, 2009 | Aaron Yelowitz

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 12:18:16 PM by listenhillary

One of the most interesting questions about the health care overhaul now moving through Congress is how it would affect young adults. That legislation would force most or all Americans to purchase health insurance (an "individual mandate") and would impose price controls on health insurance ("community rating") that would limit insurers' ability to offer lower premiums to low-risk enrollees.

Wesley J. Smith - Obamacare: Ireland Pays Surgeons To Do Nothing as Operations Canceled

First Things/Secondhand Smoke ^ | 11/8/09 | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:31:07 PM by wagglebee

As we move forward toward centralized bureaucratic health care control, it is worth noting the problems in countries that already have it. Ireland is apparently paying surgeons to do nothing, while surgeries are canceled because the department is over budged, and the lines grow ever longer. From the story:

Three Irish surgeons have revealed that they are being paid a whopping $350,000 to do nothing. The three orthopedic consultants at Letterkenny General HospitalCounty Donegal have revealed that the Irish Health Service is paying them to “sit around doing nothing” while operating theaters are empty. Senior consultant and team leader, Peter O’Rourke said he is “frustrated and depressed” about the current working climate in Letterkenny General Hospital. The surgeon claims there is little or no work for his team in the busy hospital despite massive waiting lists for essential knee and hip surgeries known as elective surgeries. The health service has put such surgeries on hold until next year as the “elective” budget has overrun by $3.3 million.

Congress To America--> We Don't Care What YOU Think

The Lid ^ | 11/8/09 | The Lid

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:08:09 PM by Shellybenoit

Last night the Democratic party said to hell with America and passed the Pelosi version of the Obamacare bill by a razor thin margin. The final vote was 220-215, with one Republican, Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.),voting for the bill, 39 Democrats voted against the legislation.

Most polls ( those not run by the daily Kos) show that anywhere from 55-60% of the American people did not want this form of health care legislation passed. But the Democratic party does not care what the people think.



Obama: House Passage of Health Care Reform a 'Courageous Vote' [Says He Is "Absolutely Confident"]

FoxNews ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:15:09 PM by Steelfish

November 08, 2009

Obama: House Passage of Health Care Reform a 'Courageous Vote' President Obama says he's confident the Senate will pass health care reform after the House passed its bill by a narrow margin Saturday night.



Labels and Gay Benefits in Health Bill [Pelosi Bill-A Gay Manifesto Triumph]

NYTimes ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 2:23:13 PM by Steelfish

Labels and Gay Benefits in Health Bill

By ROBERT PEAR

WASHINGTON — Lower taxes for gay couples who receive health benefits from employers. Nutrition labeling requirements for snack food sold in vending machines and many restaurants. A new program to teach parents how to interact with their children.

Those are some of the little-noticed provisions in a mammoth health care bill taken up Saturday by the House of Representatives.



Did the Democrats Hide a $283 Million Dollar Bribe in the Health Care Bill? (video)

Naked Emperor News ^ | Nov. 8, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:02:13 PM by Free ThinkerNY

Chairman Obama: "We need to change how business is done in Washington."



One Republican Votes For Healthcare Bill [District: 60% Black & 60% Democratic]

LATimes ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:41:38 PM by Steelfish

One Republican Votes For Healthcare Bill

Anh 'Joseph' Cao of Louisiana was elected last year to replace Rep. William J. Jefferson, who faced corruption charges.



Obama On Health Care Passage: "Heated And Misleading Rhetoric Surrounding This Legislation" (Video)

hotairpundit ^ | 11/8/09 | talkradio03

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:48:41 PM by Talkradio03

I wonder if Obama was talking about himself when he uses the phrase "misleading rhetoric surrounding Health Care"..., A bill that's an Encyclopedia of lies from him and the Democrats (Video, Obama today)



House Passes Health Reform Bill with Key LGBT Provisions

HRC Backstory Human Rights Campaign ^ | November 7, 2009 11:22PM | Michael Cole

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:57:08 PM by redreno

Late this evening, the House passed the Affordable Health Care for America Act, H.R. 3962, by a vote of 220 to 215. While this is a historic step toward improving health care for all Americans, it is also a tremendous advance for the health needs of LGBT people.



House health care bill has nowhere to go in Senate

AP ^ | 110809 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 5:01:05 PM by Artemis Webb

WASHINGTON – The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate.

Speaking from the Rose Garden about 14 hours after the late Saturday vote, Obama urged senators to be like runners on a relay team and "take the baton and bring this effort to the finish line on behalf of the American people."



Sen. Lieberman Restates Vow to Filibuster House Health Bill (video)

Fox News ^ | Nov. 8, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:58:15 PM by Free ThinkerNY

Lieberman: "If the public option plan is in there, as a matter of conscience, I will not allow this bill to come to a final vote."



(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.tv ...



Health care takeover roll call vote — and what GOP Rep. Joseph Cao got from Obama

michellemalkin.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2009 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:06:20 PM by Free ThinkerNY

The final 220-215 roll call vote on passage of the House Dems’ government health care takeover bill is here.

And here is the 240-194 roll call vote on the Stupak amendment to extend the ban on federal abortion subsidies to Obamacare/Pelosicare.



Health Care and the Power of the Bishops' Conference

EWTN ^ | November 7, 2009 | Raymond Arroyo

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:39:12 PM by Salvation

Health Care and the Power of the Bishops' Conference

Saturday, November 07, 2009



Just a few minutes ago the Stupak amendment which restricts the funding of abortion in the House Health Care Reform bill, passed handily. Staffers in several congressional offices on both sides of the aisle tell me that it was the Bishops Conference opposition to any bill without a pro-life amendment that forced the hand of House leaders. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, late last night, reluctantly allowed the Stupak amendment to come before the entire House of Representatives. The amendment, which forbids using federal funds to pay for abortions via public or private health plans was approved this evening by a vote of 240-194. Many Democrats on the left were not happy.



Health Bill faces tough battle in US Senate

The Irish Times ^ | November 9, 2009 | EDWARD LUCE

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 7:49:38 PM by mdittmar

THE FIRST thing US president Barack Obama did late on Saturday night following the passage of the healthcare Bill in the House of Representatives was to phone the heads of three industry lobby groups to thank them for their support.

Not included on the list was the largest insurance lobby group, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), which doggedly continues to oppose Democratic reform efforts.

House Democrats Who Voted Against the Health Care Bill [See Graphic Table]

NYTimes ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:01:52 PM by Steelfish

House Democrats Who Voted Against the Health Care Bill

Lawmakers in the House voted 220 to 215 on Saturday night to approve a sweeping overhaul of the nation’s health care system. Only one Republican voted for the bill, and 39 Democrats opposed it, including 24 members of the fiscally conservative Blue Dog Coalition.



Health Bill Faces Senate Heat [Chuck Schumer Says: "We'll Succeed...Failure Is Not An Option"]

Wall St. Journal ^ | November 08th, 2009

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:28:22 PM by Steelfish

Health Bill Faces Senate Heat

Challenges on Abortion and Funding Loom After Overhaul Plan Squeaks Through House

By JANET ADAMY and NAFTALI BENDAVID

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's health-care overhaul faces an uncertain battle in the Senate after a narrow weekend victory in the House revealed the continuing divide among Democrats.



NOW Opposes Health Care Bill That Strips Millions of Women of Abortion Access

NOW ^ | 11/08/09 | Terry O'Neill

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:08:50 PM by Libloather

NOW Opposes Health Care Bill That Strips Millions of Women of Abortion Access

Says Bill Obliterates Women's Fundamental Right to Choose

Statement of NOW President Terry O'Neill



The House of Representatives has dealt the worst blow to women's fundamental right to self-determination in order to buy a few votes for reform of the profit-driven health insurance industry. We must protect the rights we fought for in Roe v. Wade. We cannot and will not support a health care bill that strips millions of women of their existing access to abortion.



Healthcare vote: Obama says courageous, Palin says mess

Reuters ^ | November 8, 2009 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:38:54 PM by 2ndDivisionVet

The House passage of healthcare legislation means different things to different folks.





Wanna read any of the articles, search for them.

I don't believe this comes close to anything the American people want. Washington not only closed their ears to the Republicans, they have closed their ears to "we the people". Robert Byrd and Jay Rockefellar has to go. You know they are going to support this plan. Big suck-ups. They are supposed to be representing us. Can't wait until the next election. Come on WV and Poc. Co., let's clean house.

This is not the health care reform we need or want! This is punishment. Can you afford to be fined for not paying a large amount of your income?

You will find that the the same hysteria was broadcast in print and on radio against Social Security and Medicare-Medicaid.Now that they are an essential part of our lives ,very few oppose them.

I don't believe anyone was fined for not joining in Social Security and still to this day, an individual can opt out of the SS system. Also, it does not help to convince "we the people" when the federal employees won't join them, such as social security. Members of congress want nothing to do with Obama healthcare. They just want government control of the healthcare system.