THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Brandon Selvey
Jul 11, 2006 - 4:23AM
1 idea and 1 question...

First, the idea. I, like Mr. Vendera, am a HUGE Jeff Buckley fan. I just happened to be listening to him earlier tonight. I was listening to the song "Eternal Life" where Buckley actually does the Transcending Tone as part of the song. I'm sure he wasn't doing this for that purpose since he died in 1997, but it still applies. The note isn't the easiest in the world to hit, but this song would be great for practicing the T.T. to get an idea of what you're looking for. The guitar chords for the verses are C, G, F, A7...in that order. The reason I'm telling you this is so you can actually try to T.T. in these notes before attempting the somewhat higher note at the end of the song.
Now, the question. Is there such a thing as power pushing TOO MUCH? Don't worry. I read what that dumbass Eli Roth wrote a while back. This has nothing to do with that AT ALL! I'm just wondering if there are times when you should specifically avoid using it, whether it be for soft singing, or during certain exercises. I've not encountered any problems thus far, but I've been trying to practice as much as possible, so that when I'm ready to fully tackle gritiness and range growth, I'll be that much more ready. Anyways, just an idea and a question...

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Brandon Selvey
Jul 11, 2006 - 4:29AM
Re: 1 idea and 1 question...

P.S. I'm glad I caught this. When I was listing the guitar chords, A7 is a specific sounding chord, primarily used in Jazz and Blues. I DID NOT MEAN TO TRY AND HIT AN "A" IN THE 7TH OCTAVE! As I went back and read my message, I realized that there might potentially be some non-instrument players (I know that the voice is an instrument, but you all know what I mean) that might think I was asking them to try and hit notes that might be well above their range. Do this exercise using these notes on whatever octave feels comfortable. THANK GOD I CAUGHT THAT IN TIME!

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Jaime Vendera
Jul 11, 2006 - 5:42AM
Re: 1 idea and 1 question...

Yeah you can do the power push too much. Cool thought about practicing tt in the Buckley song too. Anyways, you need to variate the pressure. Always keep the astomach frirm but flexible and only really push down on notes up high or notes with grit. I can't teach you this part, you've got to experiment for your own on this.
JV

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