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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Can I develop a super high range?

Hi everyone!

I've only recently "discovered" Jaime Vendera and this website, and I'm definitely planning on buying "Raise Your Voice".

That being said, there is something that concerns me. I've always primarily been a guitarist, and have heard lots of progressive rock music (such as Dream Theater) through my passion of playing guitar. Of course, when I'm walking to school or wherever, I like to hum the tunes quietly to myself- so in Dream Theater's case, I would be "humming" James laBrie's lines. I had never been particularly interested in singing before, but since I could "hum" such high notes as a high F#(the alto one), for example, I always thought that if I wanted, I could develop my voice and become a really "high" singer.

So when I finally joined a Dream Theater cover band(as a guitarist of course), we didn't have a singer yet, and I hoped that I could maybe take over the role of the lead singer. My mother is a professional opera singer, and was glad to give me voice lessons. I was really starting to like the idea of being a singer, and every day my "passion" for this new "instrument" grew larger. Unfortunately, on my first lesson, we found out that I'm a "Bass-Baritone". I apparently have a great lower voice (you know, hitting low D and stuff) but I could barely hit an F above middle C(not the alto one)!!

So my mother's idea was that I had always been humming in my "head voice", or "falsetto". I knew that wasn't true, because I had often sung in falsetto before, and it sounded/felt completely different. But I DID feel a kind of transition between the range below the E(over middle C) and above it. It wasn't a crack, but I felt the "sound" go more into my head when I sang the upper notes. Unfortunately, I could never sing these "head notes" as loudly as my "chest notes", but I knew they weren't falsetto.

Eventually, we came to the conclusion that I didn't really have a high enough range and there was nothing I could do about it. Frankly, I'm not sure my mother knows too much about the male voice and what you can do with it, so I'm asking you GUYS if you know what kind of "head voice" I'm talking about and more importantly if I can DEVELOP it to make it as powerful as my chest voice, so that eventually, I might be able to sing Dream Theater stuff.

Re: Can I develop a super high range?

Hey brother, I was told I was a bass. You should check out the notes I hit on my profile video at www.myspace.com/jaimevendera. I respect your mother, but I was on Good Morning America about 1 1/2 ago and sanf higher and louder than over 20 opera singers (professionals from the New York Opera), both male and female....and I'm considered a bass. Humming is a good start, it develops muscle memory, you just get mixed up when you try to apply power, then all of a sudden you crack on that F below Tenor C. Guess what. I couldn' even hit an E 20 years ago! Can you sing higher??? YES you can. Let me tell you something, James LaBrie himself asked me if I could teach him to sing higher. If you don't believe me, email him through his website. Don't let ANYBODY tell you that you can't do it, because you can!!!!!!!

Jaime Vendera

Re: Can I develop a super high range?

YES!!!!! I knew it!!! Thanks so much Jaime for that amazing reply!!

I feel so motivated now..."Raise Your Voice" is already on it's way.

As for the DT cover band, we already have a different singer, but I've decided to sing all of the backing vocals, and I think that's all I can really manage if I'm playing lead guitar at the same time. And I think it's a good think to start out with.

I will definitely keep you e-mailed on my progress (if that's ok with you, of course!)...Thanks again!

Re: Can I develop a super high range?

No problem brother. Let everyone know how you are doing and ask plenty of questions on here along the way:)

JV

Re: Can I develop a super high range?

Hey, maybe you wont be lead singer, but can't a band have more than one singer?

I'm pretty sure Queen actually had several of the band members do solos. Or maybe that was after Freddy died. I'm really not sure.

But either way--if you develop your voice well enough, I hardly see a reason the band wouldn't let you do some singing too :). Maybe you could sing something evrey now and then to let the lead singer rest his voice for a few minutes and get some water ;).