Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.

The Voice Connection - Sound Off
Start a New Topic 
Hello Jaime(applying technique in songs)

I've been practising RYV for awhile now(not so much last few months).I think my technique still sucks but not all the way it used to.My question is how do I apply my current technique to actual songs.For example on a good day I can cover more than 2 octaves when doing sirens and stuff like that and I even thin out as I go upscale and I dont strain...but when i sing a song I can sound good on maybe 1 octave even though I have more than 2 octaves when doing sirens, I know that it's a lot easier to sing high when doing exercises as opposed to singing songs because its all on open vowels but I think its too much to have 1 octave difference when singing songs so I feel like I forgot all about technique when I sing songs.It sounds and feels like I am always pulling my chest voice so as I have to sing higher notws of the song Im always in the same tonality(like weight of the sound and place of the resonance).It sounds strained and it feels strained if I try to thin it out as I go higher I would just end up with a weak heady sound.Right now I'm having some problems with my voice and I'm still trying to figure it out and fix it but anyways the notes I'm struggling with arent very high maybe E4-F4 and above.So how do I apply what I learned and practiced to an actual song.

Re: Hello Jaime(applying technique in songs)

Hahaha, Johnny we've all been there. You kinda answered your own question. You just "apply" it as you sing;) Exercises are open-vowel exercises, thus no consonants, so they are easy to do. When singing, much more is going on. Soooo, you need to sing every day. I'd say a bare minimum of 30 minutes, while thinking about the vocal techniques you learned in RYV.

Don't expect it to be easy. Takes more finesse to learn to use those breathing, support, and placement techniques when singing. Just stick to it for a full month and don't get discouraged. If you practice 5-6 days per week for four weeks doing your exercises followed by singing, it will start to click!