Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.

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I want to start adding grit too my voice but i just cant do that sound without hurting my voice, well sometimes i can on low notes but not very often.I noticed when i get angry(I do have some anger issues haha)and scream something that grit sound comes out effortlessly, its probably damaging sound but the thing is i can make gritty sound very easly when im angry an really mean it and its not hurting my voice but when im calm and relaxed i struggle to make that sound and it hurts my thorat.Also when i pull my chest voice up to around B4 I can also make gritty sound easly but it kinda hurts.So im guessing I will practice grit only when i get angry haha.Can someone please tell me where to start if I really cant make this sound properly whitout hurting my voice.

Re: grit

Hahaha, yeah don't make them angry practice sessions. First make sure you're doing good with the RYV techniques and exercises and THEN you can slowly start adding in grit sounds. If you need music to help, check out the Extreme Scream audios programs:)