Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.

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Voice tone thickness/thinness

Hey everyone, greetings from eastern Europe.

first of all I want to express how happy I am to have found VVA/RYV. I'm only 2.5 weeks into it, but I already feel how it has helped me sing a few notes up with freedom I have never experienced before, and that is a great feeling.

However, I am still slightly worried about one thing. While these extra notes I've gained from doing the falsetto slides and transcending tones are nice in their own way and have their place in music, I can only do them without straining if I go at them with a rather thin tone. It's definitely "full voice", not some kind of falsetto, but it's still much too light for my taste (to see what I mean, you could compare in your head typical sounds of, for example, James LaBrie and Peter Steele, RIP).

Will I be able to get a darker, heavier tone on the upper notes as I progress with the VVA training? Or perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Or is this likely some fixed property of my voice? I'm a lowish baritone, and I can easily get a 'heavy' tone in the mid/low range.

I believe I haven't found much information on this in the book, although I have to admit that the book is rather long and while unlikely, it's not entirely impossible that I missed it.

Thanks in advance for any insights

Re: Voice tone thickness/thinness

You WILL get there, but you're only in 3 weeks;) Think of it like this. If you wanted big biceps and started the gym just a few weeks ago, you wouldnt have big biceps yet;) Your tone can grow and you'll be able to sing heavier, even darker. Just be patient:)