THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Fulden
May 23, 2014 - 4:36AM
Grit&Rasp Question

Hey there! I guess i managed to do the grit but it happens unintentionally. I mean i know the area it happens (when i try to sing with mix voice in chest voice areas like c4-e4) but its really hard to pull the grit into high parts, i can just maintain the tone in the c4-e4 area and its not enough. How can i gain control? Does that mean im doing it wrong when i cant control it?

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Jaime Vendera
May 27, 2014 - 8:19PM
Re: Grit&Rasp Question

Grit is tough and doesn't come as easy as the clean tones. You could try adding a tiny bit if grit to a Siren and slowly sliding up working in half step instruments:)

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Christopher_JC
Jul 20, 2014 - 10:42AM
Re: Grit&Rasp Question

Fulden
Hey there! I guess i managed to do the grit but it happens unintentionally. I mean i know the area it happens (when i try to sing with mix voice in chest voice areas like c4-e4) but its really hard to pull the grit into high parts, i can just maintain the tone in the c4-e4 area and its not enough. How can i gain control? Does that mean im doing it wrong when i cant control it?


I try to avoid unintentional grit because that's how you get injured or practice bad technique. Best advice I have is to practice lots of different grits because various grits are easier to different people. IE, the hardest grit for me to get was ironically the Chewbaca exercise (a requirement for grit) which I then gained much later after getting all the other grits.

Also gargling water didn't help me at all. I did that forever and even now I still can't see how to get grit from gargling water.

Grit is basically the right amount of tension and relaxation as you blow air at the soft palate. Practice where you are comfortable.

The worst thing you can do is practice 'strain' by trying to put grits immediately into your highest and lowest notes (and/or screams) and try to grind it out. A little grit will already make an impact on the note higher or lower, there's no need to try to build this super-amazing climax when you are first starting out.

Also the frustration/anger thing works, but you have to think of it as limited anger and frustration. Like you create just enough tension/relaxation to get a grrrrrrrrrr going. Sort of like turning on a car in one twist--you get that bit of anger/frustration and then it's on or off. DON'T GRIND IT.

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