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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: Robert Lunte - Extreme Scream Distortion

Jaime,

I agree. Often knowing the physiology will not make people a better singer. I usually only "step up on the wall" when people openly claims that for instance the false folds don't vibrate or that they are responsible for falsetto etc.

In my opinion it's totally fine that various teachers don't bother with scientific facts. I just find it a bit odd that they go ahead and try to do it anyway and usually get it all wrong like stating that falsetto are produced with the false folds.

It's funny that in almost every other areas of education, teachers are expected to know about theory and facts etc. This doesn't apply to the field of singing though.

Also, almost every serious instrumentalist knows how his instrument functions. But a surprisingly few singers know how their instrument works. And in my opinion that doesn't make sense because unlike other instrumentalists they can't just replace their voice if it gets "broken".

Just my two cents.

Re: Robert Lunte - Extreme Scream Distortion

Hahaha, I hear you. My first teacher was a college vocal coach with a masters who told me falsetto was produced by the false folds. Hmmmm sounds like they need new guidelines for getting a masters degree;) Nothing wrong with learning about vocal anatomy but I just never found a useful place for it in making a singer better.

Re: Robert Lunte - Extreme Scream Distortion

I recently saw a YouTube video, made by a currently popular teacher who charges around 300$ an hour, where it was mentioned that falsetto was produced by the false folds.

Go figure...

Re: Robert Lunte - Extreme Scream Distortion

Understanding vocal anatomy is a good thing but if it really was as helpful as you think than ENT's would be the best vocal coaches.

The problem i have seen with teachers who study at university is the whole monkey see monkey do, So and so teacher told me this is what happens so it must be right, this is especially true in classical singing education where tradition is the rule. Students do not study for themselves and become their own teachers.

So much misinformation gets passed on by students who have trusted someone but really do not know any better.

Re: Robert Lunte - Extreme Scream Distortion

Luke,

It depends on how you use the knowledge.