THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

Hey all!

Little background on me! First post here, been lurking the forum for about a month trying to learn. I purchased RYV back around April and have read most sections about 3 times now. I've been "singing" since I was 12 in pop-punk/rock/indie bands, but didn't start to take my vocal health and technique seriously until I got to college and began singing in choir everyday. I've been working with a great voice teacher for the past year (he's teaching in Bel Canto style) but many of the concepts he teacher seem to be similar to those in Jaime's book. My teacher pointed out to me that most of my strain and damage is coming out around my break area and in my high notes where I was basically belting in an unhealthy way. Since I'm on break for the summer, touring and recording with my band, and not taking lessons, I decided to really work through Jaime's method to help my voice.

I started the 7 week outline last week and now am onto the falsetto slide exercise starting today. Here is an example of me doing this exercise and if some of you would be so kind to listen and critique me, I would really appreciate it!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5243259/falsetto%20slide.wma (Starts on C4- not C3 DOH!)

Thanks!

Jack

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

Hey Jack, the volume was really low. Not sure if it was on my end. Had to strain to hear. sounded decent from what I could tell. Just don't slide completely into fry. Just slide as low as you can without it getting "fry" gritty;)

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

Thanks for checking it out Jaime! The low voice thing was fault on my end, That's what I get for noodling around with windows "Sound Recorder" haha. I'm gunna post up a proper leveled version after my workout today!

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

Here's an update! This was day 2 for me (yesterday I rested). As I went through this, I'm finding that I really need to concentrate on lightening up on the higher notes, as I do feel some sort of pulling. Not sure if it's strain on the vocals cords or just muscle burn, but regardless, I think I need to lighten up as I get higher and just let the notes happen.

Here's an example with better audio quality haha
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/8oo2jy2nvrvtspp/Falsetto%20Slide%20Day%202.wav

Do any of you guys here what I would call a grainy cracky quality in my voice. Think this is anything to worry about? Maybe due to allergies, post nasal drip, nodules? I don't know, curious to get an opinion on here!
Thanks again!

Jack

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

It will go away with time. You are learning to adjust the amount off breath required to support that falsetto tone. Do them as soft, clean (no breathiness) and slow as you can. File must've been fairly large because it kept starting/stopping on my end. make sure to keep that stomach tight. I heard some of your notes going flat, but then higher ones were fine. You can jump ahead to RYV2 and use the "Sean Connery" Tee Pee approach on those higher notes to create a better focal point in the palate;)

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

Thanks for the tip Jaime! I'm on week 4 now and have struggled through transcending tone and now am starting to work with the sirens, but no negativity on my end! Improvement will come with time and practice. I'll keep posting on here as well!

Re: Starting Jaime's method, example of my voice

The TT exercise IS a beast, so don't get frustrated as it will take longer than the other to to acquire perfect form.