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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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May 24, 2013 - 9:19AM
Re: Per Jaime's request, here's my singing

Jaime,

First, THANK YOU for listening! I chose this piece because although I can do rock and other kinds of music, hearing a more 'belty' sounding high note from other people has me saying, I WANT TO DO THAT! But pulling up chest voice is a recipe for disaster...and it won't sound good (and it'll kill me).

"Soon- more towards falsetto like a 3 1/2-4 on my scale."

"Soon" and "Let" are the two notes in this song I want to be in full voice. If you listen to just about any professional sing these, they don't jump up into that light tone..It's that powerful blast the room manly belt with vibrato. I feel like Julia Child singing Soon! ("I've cut the dickens out of my finger!")

"If I die, sort of a falsetto/ moixed voice variation."

Okay.

"LET (me die)- LET was leaning more towards falsetto."

Yes, it was :( :( :(

"Last "Bring Him Home" at the end is definitely falsetto."

Stylistically, I'm okay with finishing the note in the purest, sweetest falsetto I can muster, because I feel like that's what the song calls for. I'm great with that, when I'm doing it because I *want* to. But SOON and LET are meant to be powerful, and I can't seem to find the power there.

"Now, if you DO want a more full voiced sound, it's going to take more downwards supports from you, aka the Power Push. Please note, this does NOT mean brute force. I've heard a couple of people over the years claim my power push approach is "brute force" to get those upper notes. To that I say they have no friggin clue what they are talking about. Downwards support is like a gas pedal. Push down to go faster in your car/higher in your voice. Doesn't mean you're using more wind or have to get louder. When you finally understand it, you'll realize you can use less air and even less volume if you like. Now, to get those notes, it's time for tons of Sirens, and if it were me, I'd be stair-stepping those Sirens like I mention in RYV2;)"

Thank you! I'm going to do a lot more sirens, then, and I guess especially in the F4-C5 range, just rip up there and hold them. I have always had problems figuring out your power push (what it should feel like). I'll re-read the portions of RYV2 that deal with this and see what I can accomplish. I can definitely hear when I listen to it how my voice has 'uneven' strength. Sometimes difficulty holding vibrato, or keeping the intensity of the note, so I guess I have some muscle work to do here!

But the main takeaway from you was what I was hoping for, that a) SOON and LET are too close to a falsetto for what I want, and b) you think I *CAN* get a more powerful full voice on those notes with lots of sirens.

Thank you again!
Randy

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