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Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

I hate to constantly ask questions (especially those where discussion has taken place ad nauseum), so I hope that in time I will find some knowledge that I can share. But for now...

I always assumed that head voice would have power and fullness to it right away, and would thus be easily distinguished from falsetto. This assumption changed after many of you wise vocalists spoke of an undeveloped head voice sounding similar to falsetto until you build it up.

If transcending tone is a way of developing your head voice via building power over a falsetto vocal arrangement, then what differentiates it from this "reinforced falsetto" thing I hear about?

I have decided that due to my affinity for making weird noises throughout my life, I have probably used my head voice significantly, but can't recognize it (tone or feeling). So I was screwing around last night after my vocal practice and recorded some Chris Cornell inspired Yeahs. I'm hoping you can tell me if they are head voice, reinforced falsetto (seriously, what IS this?) or just a pushed falsetto.

Disclaimer: They were spur of the moment, and obviously not meant to be musical. But since this is a vocalist forum and you've all probably done similar things, I feel okay making an ass of myself.

Thanks for any input.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

Reinforced falsetto is just highly resonant voice but with closure of the cords that is more like falsetto than full voice. It's thinner and typically quite piercing. Listen to Halford's Resurrection for a good example of reinforced falsetto.

Also, I use reinforced falsetto for all the screams in this:

Seek to the bridge and then the end. You can clearly see that the tonality is quite different to full voice.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

Mechanically, reinforced falsetto doesn't feel connected. You go into it, you can't easily slide into it directly (although you can make it sound seamless by going through a couple of notes of head voice). It feels like falsetto in your throat, but with a lot more support and power.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

Thank you both for your responses. It is really appreciated.

Although I feel like perhaps I could distinguish reinforced falsetto from head voice if compared side by side, I'm still not sure I could quickly spot one or the other on their own. I hope it comes with time (and lots of examples).

In terms of identifying what it is I am doing at any given time, I'm still lost. I think the largest problem is many years of lumping head voice and falsetto together. Having done that, it's now very difficult to even feel a difference. My idea of 'head voice' was misguided, and now it's a heck of a habit to kick. I feel like I can slide down from those Yeahs without 'flipping' or cracking, but maybe I'm just good at concealing the switch.

Do either of you have input in regards to my clip? Head voice/falsetto? Is that something you can even diagnose with such an isolated phonation?

Thanks again

Also, great cover, Alkis.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

In my experience in reinforced falsetto has no thickness of the folds activated. In headvoice there is thickness of the folds, more or less depending on how much you activate.
A falsetto is Headvoice just no thickness activated.

Thats how i feel it is :P

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

Fade, for me the difference between "head voice" and "reinforced falsetto" or whatever term people are using starts to be very difficult to distinguish on those high notes you posted on your clip. For me it feels that they start different on lower notes but end up in the same place when you go very high. The difference becomes more obvious if you start going the scale downwards, not upwards as you did in the example. So, could you record the example, start from the same note and go down instead of going up?

For me, the difference is also on the connection. Head voice is connected and goes down smoothly, while falsetto will sound whiny and piercing and it will break into chest while going down.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

I really must apologize, 18is9. I didn't see your post the last time I checked this thread, and then life got crazy.

I very much appreciate your response, and your idea of going down the scale instead of up is an intriguing one. I'm living in an apartment now with very very thin walls, so once I figure out how to scream without having the cops called on me, I will try out your test.

Thank you again.

Re: Difference (tonal/mechanical) between reinforced falsetto and head voice

The Nightcrawler example from Alkis sounded a lot like pharyngeal voice to me, at least part of it at the end. Is this the case? It's exactly what I wish I could do and what I'm personally working toward. It just seems to me that a person could get there with the witches cackle or the baby cry examples.
My baby cray sounds like a 40ish dude trying to cry like a baby. Since I have raised four babies of my own you would think I would have that down. lol. Not so.