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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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How Many Octaves

Guys, I'm really bad with musical theory
Just wondering how many octaves a typical song covers? I know it's different with every song, but a ballpark estimate with the verses and chorus.

Re: How Many Octaves

This is a really really really vague subject. This goes into style, how wide the singer's range is, too many factors to mention really. A song could be 2-3 notes, or 3-4 octaves. There is no average. Sorry.

Now if you're asking how many octaves i'd say where in a good song, i'd say anywhere from 1-2 octaves would be great, shows alot of range, 3 if you can pull it off, anything more is pushing it a bit. But less than 1 octave to me gets a little boring unless you know how to use it.

Re: How Many Octaves

I would say that how many octaves a song covers is completely irrelevant, musically. Singing, to me, is about emotion and melody. If you feel that you need to go higher for something, you do, if not, you don't.

Re: How Many Octaves

Typically the songs I've sung in my classical rep. cover about... I'd guess about 1.5 octaves. However those are usually on the higher end of the singer's range since the idea is to be able to project the notes without a microphone.


Typically what I've done for things like competitions is had one piece that sits lower in my range to show off the lower end, and one that sits higher to show off the higher notes. Typically you wont find a -lot- of songs that will show off every inch of your range, although those are definitely out there.


I have no idea what the average range for other types of music are! Sorry.



You say you don't know much about musical theory: I would REALLY suggest you learn some more. Not to be snobby, but because I've found that the more theory I study the more I appreciate the music and... just little things click into place. It's just cool!

You probably wont be crippled or anything if you don't know a lot of theory, but it certainly can be a help.