i often get complements saying that i can sing scales with a great voice and be on the right note all the time...but when it comes to songs...i sing like the worst singer ever on earth and couldn't get a hold of any note...is there a way to apply the skill i have in scales to a song?

I think you should song map the songs. Jaime described that in RYV. Not sure if Jaime covered that in RYV 2nd edition, but that should help you.

I haven't read the whole book yet. Will try to read the rest this weekend.

thx for the reply...i bought the book online yesterday and it is on its way i think...so song map it is...any other methods??

Yes...you MUST SING EVERY DAY!!!! That is the ONLY way to take it from scales to sings. Because songs incorporate so many muscle changes through the use of different consonants and vowels. So sing sing sing:)

Jaime Vendera

Practice your muscle coordination by breaking down the song into short sentences. Than practice one sentence at a time with a piano or another instrument to check your pitch. Start with singing each sentence on lip bubbles, than on A than add words... Than try two sentences together and see where it gets you until you sang the whole verse.

I was helping another guy through with the same problem. His scales were pitch perfect but his songs were pitchy, his problem was intervals. The scales he was singing all have fixed intervals that never vary. Songs on the other hand have many and varied intervals between notes.
I fixed it by firstly getting him to sing words to the scales and, funnily enough, he could sing these perfectly so it wasn't the actual words, he needed to practice the intervals between the notes.
Try this; sing words to the scales to see if that's the problem. If so, practice lyric lines to the scales. If not, work out which intervals are causing trouble and practice them firstly with scales and then with words.
There are many ways to exercise the intervals between notes, my favorite is 1-5, 4-5, 3-5, 2-5, 1.
Good Luck, Dave.

ooooo...that is a great idea!!! i guess i shouldn't always go either up or down by an interval from now on...like somethign different huh??? icic

Yep, that's sort of what I mean.
Here's an mp3 example of the 154535251 scale on piano;
http://www.box.net/shared/4nfa09rhhg
This is great training for intervals and should help with what you're running into.
You can actually sing the words "one five, four five, three five, two five, one" or use pure vowels to practice it. Another handy tool for this scale is to draw up a decent sized poster with the 5 numbered lines on it a few inches apart (1 at the bottom, 5 at the top) and let your eyes move to each line as you sing BUT don't reach up or down at all, just move the eyes (or Jaime will kill me!) Jaime would probably suggest that you mount it sideways so that you go right rather than higher and this works fine, it's just a visual aid to help you with the differences between the intervals.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, Dave.

mate!!! thx for the mp3!!! this isn't that easy at first...which is good thing for me...which means i really have a problem...and i really hope that it will solve my problem when i am able to sing these perfectly with all different vowells....!!! THX!!!