"Those who can teach, those who can't criticize."

It's a variation on the quote "Those who can do, those who can't teach." To me that statement is really off the mark. I think some of the greatest "doers" are also some of the greatest teachers.

For example in football, Terrell Owens had the priviledge of playing with Jerry Rice in San Francisco. Say what you want about Owen's personality but Jerry Rice had a huge influence in making Terrell one of the greatest recievers in the game today. He was a teacher. The same thing can be said about the effect Randy Moss has had on the Patriots recieving core. It's more than just the skills he brings to the football field. It's also his knowledge that he brings to the locker room.

This relates to musicians many ways. I always seek to find musicians who are better than me and willing to share their knowledge. Almost everything I learned in music I learned from somewhere else. Either from jamming with people or trying to sing or play guitar with the greats. And I still have a long way to go.

There is no such thing as a self-taught musician.
Unless you were put on an island in isolation and given an instrument you will learn from someone, somewhere. And even if you where isolated on that island, you would learn from nature.

The point of this post is simply to say seek knowledge from where ever you can and from who ever you can.

Sorry for the hippie rant, I just got done with yoga class!

i think the main reason they say that is because if you arent a natural it forces you to think yer way through it and by doing that you find successful ways of doing that that you can teach to others. rob halford to me is the best but i doubt he would be able to teach me cuz he doesnt really do anything to build his voice. on the other hand you have Jaime here who went through the painstaking process of finding ways to build his own voice and thus taught it to us. odviously its a good system which is why we are all posting on here

That's an interesting quote... I've never heard it in that format before.

What I've heard is, "Those who can't do, teach."

Which I frankly think is utter bullshit... my teacher is fantastic, and although her voice has some issues, she hasn't been training -any- of those problems 'into' my voice.

I also know another voice teacher here who, when you hear him sing, you would almost think has had very little training himself. But his students sound AMAZING, and he is an absolute vocal health dictionary on legs... he knows just about everything.