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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Holding notes, then they flutter

As you many of you know, I'm into grit. But I'm still deeply bothered by the fact that I cannot achieve grit in my mid-range as heavily as I'd like. My mid range ends up sounding more like a breathy fry.

Anyhoot, I was noticing today that there seems to be a direct correlation between the notes that I cannot add heavy grit onto...and the same notes fluttering when I try to sustain a pitch for like 30 seconds.

Does this fluttering happen to anyone else? Has it happened to anyone else in the past?

Admittedly, I haven't done Jaime's exercises as he has instructed in the book. I don't hold the pitch as long as possible. I just use the internet files out of convenience...which we all know aren't very long sustains. So I'm gonna start holding the notes really long now, in hopes of attaining my ultimate goal.

I've just recently (within the past few months) have totaly eliminated cracks when singing in and out of headvoice. Now, I'm hoping that eliminating the shakiness in the mid-range notes will allow me to grit up this area better.

So basically, does anyone know why these notes flutter and shake? Like what is physically happening? And also, is practicing sustaining notes the best remedy for this???

Re: Holding notes, then they flutter

I sounds like you lack support. Bend your knees a bit towards the end of a phrase much like in a sitting position. That will help reinforce your support in engaging your diaphragm better and prevent your notes from fluttering I hope!

Re: Holding notes, then they flutter

It feels like I'm giving proper support but i suppose I can't say for sure. I know that when I really belt the note, like really loud, it doesn't seem to shake as much...but If I want to sing the notes quietly, well belting them out doesn't help.

The shaking generally happens when I'm just trying to sound my voice in it's most simple, primitive, relaxed sound. What I mean is no embellishments, no breathiness, no coloration, no tension, just my chords phonating with all neck and facial stress released. This is when it is most likely to happen.

Otherwise, lets say I sing an old 80's power metal song, like Yngwie Malmsteen or something, It doesn't happen, because I'm pushing a bit more, adding vibrato, trying to make it sound powerful etc...

Re: Holding notes, then they flutter

Sometimes soft notes are actually more difficult to sing because we tend to let go of the support thinking less support is required. Think the opposite; the softer the note, the more the diaphragm need to stay down. Don't push more air out, just make sure to maintain your rib cage expanded by keeping the diaphragm low. It's all about self-control