THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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About the falsetto myth

In his book (RYV, page 27) Jaime Vendera says: "Any note that you are able to sing in falsetto, you can learn to sing just as easily in full voice". I just finished reading RYV and I find this really hard to believe.

I have always been able to sing really high notes with my falsetto voice (no problem singing King Diamond songs or Bee Gees :)) and I can sing ok with my full voice but ONLY in my lower range. If I try to sing higher notes my voice soon brakes and shoots over a VERY BIG gap into falsetto. Is he really saying that this gap can be bridged??? Again, I find this a little hard to believe.

Loved the book by the way. Very well written and easy to understand! Interesting, but all sounds too good to be true :)

Re: About the falsetto myth

I'm not an expert singer by any means, however since reading RYV my head voice nearly matches my falsetto. It is possible it just takes dedication.

Re: About the falsetto myth

Yeah ! it's as simple as: coordinating your support, achieving proper adduction, and coloring th sound as wished.... and TADAH! you have full voice in what used to be your falsetto :D.... that's the magic of RYV

Re: About the falsetto myth

You can actually sing higher in full vooice because to it really high notes the glottis must come together tighter. In falsetto, the glottis stays more open so therefore there comes a point where your high notes can only be a full voice tone or eventually woirk into whistle which is not falsetto.

JV

Re: About the falsetto myth

Is a good high falsetto voice a good starting point for learning how to sing that high in full voice?

Is it easier for someone who has a good strong falsetto voice to learn how to sing high in his full voice, than for someone who has no or limited falsetto voice?

Re: About the falsetto myth

Well, personally, I think it IS a plus to already have the ability to hit the high notes in falsetto because you pretty much have a good gauge on what you'll eventually be aiming for in full voice. HOWEVER, this is not meant to discourage anyone who has a limited falsetto. It can STILL BE DONE! It'll take more time and effort to actually get to where you can hit those notes in full voice, but it's certainly possible. Though I still can't hit my highest falsetto notes in full voice, I CAN hit most of them in mixed or at least with a strong reinforced falsetto. Prior to RYV, I wouldn't be able to make such a claim. RYV makes good on every single claim, but it's up to you to put in the time and effort. I believe that you can do it, though.

Re: About the falsetto myth

Without a doubt... i cant sing nowhere near as high in falsetto as i can in full voice....
It takes a looonggg time to make your headvoice work the way you want it to...but its definitely worth it. Im getting there.

Re: About the falsetto myth

Argh...it's the old story. What's falsetto?

Actually, I'm not even going to start talking about it. This dispute never comes to a satisfactory result, and I'm beginning to think that I just have a weird voice. Also, Jaime is going to recieve quite a blast of questions (and money, don't worry JV) when I finally get to Ohio. ;)