I just got a job at a vacation call center. Yesterday was my first day, it was a horrible experience. Due to how nasty the people were, but also the staff was too intense for that it was only my first day. On top of it, I talked to 470 people in 6hours. By the end of the day my voice was feeling very horrible even though I was concentrating on my breath and alternating pitches to make sure I wasn't wearing it out. I think when u talk for so long constantly your voice is gonna get worn out. I never talked so much in my life as I did yesterday.

On a side note I think, I'm not gonna go back today it was way too much crap to deal with for the amount I was getting paid.

the speaking voice deserve as much attention as you singing voice. Place your speaking voice hgih in the mask the same way you would sing. Raise your pitch a little bit if it helps.

You definitely need a certain kind of personality to put up with people barking at you all day. (Whether it be the customers or the employers) I did a telemarketing job about 5 years ago, selling super over-priced printing cartridges. I quit after a day and a half. I couldn't put up with it.

Furthermore, you would probably get used to speaking all day for 8 hours, and learn not to hurt your voice BUT whats the point of going through that if the job really sucks...?

Yeah, like I can put up with stressful things. But the first day of the job to have someone yelling in ur face as ur on the phone talking to someone. You can even hear the what heck the person is saying. The lady was just unprofessional and annoying. The one woman was listening in on my calls and said I had a very nice speaking voice, so that made me happy though :)

I worked collections/customer sevice/disputes for 5 years! I feel your frustration!!

Speak as naturally as you can and keep your voice well hydrated. I'm quite lucky in that it comes natural to me to use resonance in my speaking voice, so I tend not to shout, even though I speak louder than most. Speak in your mask.

Hey Jaime.....Why don't you tell everybody what your first job was when you lived in Los Angeles.!!!!!!

Your Best Bud and co-worker !!!!

I was a go-go dancer at a nightclub called Swinging Richards...considering what they made us wear...no wonder I can sing high...;)

Are u kidding??

LOL!!! Thats funny somebody impersonating Jaime...

Read ALL books by Dr. Morton Cooper!

JV

jester...despite all the good advice given about proper speaking voice technique...I think your first intuition was the best....GET THE HELL out of that job, haha! In fact any kind of salesmanship just leaves me with a really bad taste...I know some are fine with it, and good at it...but not for me, thanks.

Being on the phone SUCKS..But when I lived in Hollywood and my girlfriend from Beverly Hills dumped me because I hooked up with her best friend for the weekend, I had no choice but to become a telemarketer ;) It can be rough but you can handle it. Keep the tone placed up in the palate and make your tone a little softer/lighter, almost girlish, to let the voice float out of the throat and take the weight off the cords.

JV

Why did you cheat on her? And why the need to tell us about it? Infidelity is not something to take lightly or joke about. My wife of 4 years cheated and left me so excuse me if I dont get it. I would have expected more from you Jaime,thats all.

Well we've all made mistakes in our past.

Jordan, lighten up man. It was a joke. I am married and would NEVER cheat on my wife, but if you take everything I say to heart and cannot have a little fun in life, then you won't have no life at all. Yes I am sorry about your wife. A good friend of mine is going through a terrible divorce, but if I told him the same story I just put up, he wouldn't take it to heart and get depressed because he'd know that I am goofy like that.

JV

I just thought it was lame...not a joke at all.

That's your right to feel that way and I'm sorry I offended you but I won't change who I am because one person is offended. Or else I'd be twenty different people every three days ;)

JV

I thought you were different, guess not.

Just tell him your sorry Jaime and move on...we dont need all this here

Jordan,

You know what? EMail me your number at venderaj@msn.com

JV

You know what, forget the phone call. I am really tired of walking on eggshells. Do you have any idea how much time I put into development just to help other singers out??? And apparently you thought I was different...But you were wrong? Do you realize that I am one of the few coaches who actually try to take time out of their schedule to answer hundreds of questions? Do you realize that I charge for song critiques AND phone time yet I STILL get hundreds of singers emailing me or calling me and asking for my opinion, and yet although they realize they have to pay, I ususally STILL try to listen and email back, or answer their questions for free. Do you realize that RYV II is costing me thousands of dollars to redo, is twice as long as RYV I and is going to cost me twice the price per book to print YET I am NOT raising the price? If you think I am doing it for the money, you are entirely wrong! Do you realize that we are planning on expanding the Members section greatly which is only costing me but I am doing it to help you? Do you realize that we have all had our share of problems, especially me, and if someone were to make a joke that personally affected me, I wouldn't make a huge situation out of it? Everyone has different experiences and that is part of life. I guess my lesson here is that my apology wasn't good enough Therefore I will begin to act like every other vocal coach out there and I shall no longer be personally posting on my own message board.

Jaime Vendera

Ah, Jamie, please don't let one upset vocalist set you off :-/.

I know I really appreciate your advice and comments whenever I see them.

We all have sensitive spots--for me, it tends to be jokes with an even slightly 'anti-gay' slur, and apparently for Jordan it's anything to do with cheating or the like.

I'm not exactly sure what Jordan thought you were like, considering that we only know you from the message board, but I personally have no problem with your personality, and I hope you'll continue to post.

We really do value your advice, and appreciate the time that you take out of your insane schedule to give us all encouragement and advice.

And hey, for the record, I am buying RYV II the -minute- it comes out, whether it's $10 or $100 . RYV I has already been worth it's weight in gold to me .

I am not mad at Jordan, because I take everything lightly. But it seems that there have been times that when I post something, people get way too bent out of shape. Therefore, I feel it's best if I leave the posting to the people on this board and let Brandon moderate it and Oiselle keep it in line.

JV

Hey Jaime, don't take it to heart so much... As much as I enjoy looking after the board, I always enjoy reading your perspectives on things as well and I really hope that you're not going to avoid posting; it is your board after all! Don't let one person ruin it for everybody else please In addition, your generosity is what makes you such a great person Thank you for being yourself! You are right, most vocal coaches, authors or anyone else in the public eye would probably not take the time to have such a personal involvement with fans. People must realize that and appreciate your input.

Beside, I don't think your initial comment was that bad; even if it would have been true, everybody does silly things when they're young; that's just how we learn and grow. I know I've done some pretty ugly things myself so

Jordan, Jaime already apologize once, that should be enough. What else do you want him to do? He's not the one who cheated on you!! Move on man...

LOL! so, i've been away from the board for a week or so and it looks like cobby decided to take my place for awhile, but its cool because i was very entertained by it. jaime dude you've really got to make a login for this board, or someone is really liable to get offended

umm, none of that was from me... you need a login jaime

I honestly didn't think it was you because of your humor in other posts. So I figured I'd play along and if I pretended to quit the board, the culprit would be sniffed out ; Guess it didn't work but at least everyone knows I'm sneaky now :)

JV

Jaime, you are right... you shouldn't post here anymore to make some people realize what they would miss if you left this board !

BUT I'm sure you won't for all those here who love and respect you

Mag

and I agree you are goofy and sneaky

although you are an admitted cheater...thats sad

Ouf! That's better; we would have missed you

That's not Mag. Too many pranksters on this board. We WILL be getting a new board soon.

JV

I also did not type that :(