THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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The vocal break or break point.

At one point when I first ever went to a vocal teacher, she said I would never increase in range that was 5 or so years ago. It devistated me and discouraged me. I almost quit, until I decided to try Vocal Power By Mr. Gillette.

You talk about this in RYV. And it's pretty vital info because everyone can keep getting stronger and higher or lower in range.

I relate very much to what you went through Jaime, although I still have breaking points and still I work through them. I'm better than 5 years ago and better than 6 months ago.

Always some kind of challenge, but with practice it does come, eventually.

But enjoyed that chapter on the breaking point. As well as all of it and am already incorporating things from the book into my daily routine.

Re: The vocal break or break point.

Jim and I talk all the time. His speaking voice is as low as James Earl Jones (Darth Vader), but yet he's worked through his breaks and higher. If he can do it, anyone can ;)

JV

Re: The vocal break or break point.

I've been doing the RYV exercises for just under a year now and my range has improved. My break point is around high C - on a good day (when I'm not fatigued and have tight pants on, lol) I can hit high C and the C# just above it.

I can tell the C note is the break though, because some days when I'm tired and doing vocal practice after work, I can hit the C# above the C, even if the C breaks.

Re: The vocal break or break point.

Actually what you've done is smooth put the first break and you've made your way to a 2n break point which happens at around a Tenor C or C#. Now you really have to apply the techniques and allow then resonance to fly out the top of the head.

JV

Re: The vocal break or break point.

I can hit a tenor B now and am able to sing Wild Side by Motley Crue.

But the problem at times is just because I can hit the B doesn't mean I can always hit it while singing words. Which makes no sense...

This happens sometimes. I'll be singing and I'm not straining, but it's like I'm not hitting that note I know I can hit. Then other times it's no sweat.

Can you tell me why this is Jaime?

Re: The vocal break or break point.

Different consonanats and vowels affect the shape of the mouth and pharnx and can mae it more difficult to hit higher notes. Practice is the key.

JV