I now do 500 bullfrogs daily and can successfully lip bubble 'Separate Ways'.

I have found that I can apply more resistance to the bullfrog exercise by pushing a finger underneath my chin applying resistance to the exercise.

Will this make my larynx lowering muscles even stronger and more flexible?

Good job. The resistance will help.

JV

Thanks Jamie.

I'm also keeping the ribs expanded and using minimal breath and firing high notes using the powerpush, I can feel easy resonance in my nasal cavity.

I find I have to use so little breath to stop the high notes from splatting, when firing the resonance into the nasal cavity.

I am now enjoying singing 'Lights', though I cant wait for when I have that high C with full resonance and ease.

It's all about the quality of the notes on the exercises my friend. You'll get that high C ;)

JV

God bless you Jamie, sometimes I feel like a blind man who's gradually regaining his sight.

I know that sounds cheesy AND corny, but I really mean it.

is it true, if you lick a bullfrog, you can see things?

I still can't do this bullfrog thing for the life of me. I can't seem to make my Larynx go down intentionally either.

Dude I just started working on them last night and today can do them w/o the "helper" method. If you watch the Jonathan Spencer video, part 1, around 30mins in Jaime show's you how to get there. I did them ALL last night with the helper method and today can move that little bastard down! It's also in RYV....

Trust me, I had the same exact problem and decided to drill down w/ the book/vids and figure it out. ONE DAY later I can do them. I've probably done 700 today.

I found it quiet hard too but after just a few days it starts getting better.
What I do is like yawning with my mouth closed, it really makes the larynx go down. It is really tensing some muscles on each side of the throat, I have to consentrate to make it work. Then i do the bullfrog thing, bulging those muscle.
Hope it is the correct way to do it.
Anyway, it is clear that it make those muscle work like they never did before ! I feel them like I never did.
By the way, the Bullfrog is at 43:20 on Jonathan Spencer video

Hey Chris, here's how I do the bullfrog. Hopefully it'll help you too.

Just point your tongue straight down (while it's still inside your mouth of course;)and basically push straight down with your tongue as if you were trying to "manually" push the larynx down with your tongue. Honestly, that's what you're really doing anyways. You can do this with your mouth opened or closed. The reason I'm telling you this is because some people add unnecessary strain to the jaw by clenching their teeth when they do the bullfrog. Do NOT ever strain while doing this exercise. Even though the point of this exercise is to feel that burn, you'll know when it hurts to stop, take a breath, and figure out what's hurting. I hope I've helped...

Cheers Brandon, good tip Thank you.

Hey Brandon,

Thanks for the tip, I will give it a shot! This is kinda funny because everything else I picked right up and I am like retarded on this exercise.... Maybe I am bullfrog challenged hahahahaha

Hey Jaime- A couple questions

1) When I push the back of my tongue down both my larynx goes down as well as my throat puffs is that all it is??????

2) I am assuming that the whole goal is to keep the back of the tongue down and in a u shape to not restrict sound????

What is wierd is that my larynx sits real low anyway even when I am sing until I get high.... I am wondering if that is why I dont see it move as much?????

Chris,

1) Yes
2) Yes

3.) Yes, but that should not happen. The larynx might mive up a bit but should not disappear on the high notes.

JV

Let me re-phrase - it doesnt move much until the notes get high then it shoots up. but it sits pretty close at other times to the bottom. Does that make sense????

Who is Jonathan Spencer?

Nancy: Jonathan Spencer is one of Jaime's students. There is a video of a lesson with him in the members section. You should check it out- it's quite helpful to go through the exercises "live" with Jaime and compare your performance with Jonathan. (He will most likely OWN you, haha)

Thank you for the info. I saw oodles of stuff in that section, just haven't got to it yet. Been so much into reading RYV. I will be checking this out. That is just awesome that there are live lessons to view!!!!

You guys should be careful with those exercises as to not stress the back of the tongue too much. If it's lowered too much, it will become tensed and it might affect your vibrato and the overall sound of your voice. I sometimes had difficulty controlling my vibrato and I recently realized that's what was happening...

Ok oiselle, I'm taking your word for it, since I'm new to this b/frog exercise and the board.

Hey Nancy, the natural u curb of the back of your tongue, do the "GN" sound than the bullfrog :)keeping the tongue in position.

E$xcellent advice Oiselle. This exercise should NOT stress the tongue. In fact, when I do it, my tongue does curve down like a yawn but without a lot of pressure. It feels relaxed and dows NOT need to move to do a bullfrog.

JV