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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

Khassera,
Yeah, you seem to be right on the money with your theories. I would be happy to listen to your examples.

I will say that it's probably a good idea to warm up with the monotone examples. "Roots bloody Roots" from Sepultura and "Fight Fire With Fire" from Metallica are two classics which sound killer but don't bounce around much from note to note. This will give a great indication of where to put the sound and how much force to use in a safer manner. Then once that safe approach has been discovered and second nature, then move on to the screams which are sang, Pantera, and Slipknot for example.

Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

Here is one more example but this time it's a little harder. It's "Left Behind" from Slipknot. It's basically the same technique. A good way to test your own scream technique is to do a song which switching between screaming and singing. As you all know, today, it's quite popular to do that. As I Lay Dying and Trivium are two good examples. So if you can quickly switch from scream to sing then you are doing the scream safely.

Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

Guys,

I can't thank you enough for taking the time to post and record these examples.
This is really something I want to learn by heart. I feel like it's the major thing that is missing for me as a vocalist, at least for the time being.

Is there any good starting sounds besides the "grunt" that I could work with? I figure I need to grasp the basic placements and work from there.

When I sing clean, I'm confident that I am placing the tone up in the soft palate. But I'm not as sure when it comes to the powerpush. I'm starting to suspect that I'm not putting it to use as much as I should be doing.
Could this be what is holding me back when it comes to grit?

I figure I ought to practice the powerpush more, but I find it hard to understand when you should use it, and to what extent.

Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

How much breath do you use in your grit while doing left behind?

Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

koc
How much breath do you use in your grit while doing left behind?


About as much as it would take to blow out a candle. Any more than that would probably be a bad thing.

Re: How to get that Corey Taylor / Randy Blythe sound

Meh, i can't manage to get that screamish sound, i can do the false chord thingy but it sounds too raspy.Any tips?