THE VOICE CONNECTION
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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Jason
Jan 17, 2012 - 9:16PM
Re: A vocal dead end

No problem man...if you're creative there is a lot you can do with your current range. If you're a baritone topping at A4, you probably have 24+ notes of full range voice - there are TONS of songs you can do with that. How high the notes are in a song isn't the biggest thing, it is the difference from the highest to lowest note in the song that is key - if you can cover that gap there is a good chance you can come up with a good cover of the song.

An example: I'm a huge Alice In Chains fan. I wanted to cover Man in the Box forever but that powerful, sustained Bb4 just was not happening with my current range. Eventually my band decided to just change the key; we knocked it down 4 semi-tones, turning that Bb4 into a Gb4 which I can sing with power without trashing my voice (or worse - sounding awful!). Changing the key was no problem because I have enough bottom range to cover the low notes in the song (which also went down 4 semi-tones). Other than the key change we play it pretty close to the original so a typical audience isn't even going to notice the change.

If you get audacity, you can play around with changing the key of songs to find comfortable keys that sound good for your voice.

As to the mid range - I find the transcending tone and siren from RYV excellent for strengthening that area just below your top notes. I used to push really hard for anything from E4 up but now that I am used to doing these exercises up to Ab4 (TT) and A4 (siren) the lower notes are much easier. And I'm even pushing less on the very top notes so maybe my range is increasing (very slowly!). As long as we keep working at it and never quit we'll get there!

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phil
Jan 17, 2012 - 10:26PM
Re: A vocal dead end

anthon send me a soundclip of you singing a piano scale on the AH vowel. also, a siren on an AH vowel up to a note that you consider is hard but possible to reach.
phil.moufarrege@gmail.com

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Ben
Jan 17, 2012 - 11:43PM
Re: A vocal dead end

phil
anthon send me a soundclip of you singing a piano scale on the AH vowel. also, a siren on an AH vowel up to a note that you consider is hard but possible to reach.
phil.moufarrege@gmail.com
PHIL! What the hell are you doing with all of these AH vowel recordings? You got some kind of AH vowel fetish? That's sick man! hahahha! Just kidding. Seriously though, what do you check for when someone sends you a recording? I might send you one some day.

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