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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Moritz
Nov 4, 2011 - 7:21AM
Singing vibrato beyond C5

First of all, i want to thank Jaimie, God and all you users wich where helping me in this forum. I ve done now 8 weeks isolation method and increased my range up to G5 , before i could barely sing C#5 , I improved my gritt and now im workin on that my range is nicely soft and clear and fat like big bear^^, like when Rusell ALllen sings in upper range, I have beyond A5 a natural edgy voice but I´ll figure that out I am shure. So after these words of thanking you I´ll get to the point

I am actually singing a song from Dreamthater " Take the Time" and have problems singing a C#5 holding it long and then add a strong Vibrato in the end, is sooo tough... Its like i lose all my downwards power to create and hould the note, any tipps ?????

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Ben
Nov 4, 2011 - 12:40PM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Moritz
First of all, i want to thank Jaimie, God and all you users wich where helping me in this forum. I ve done now 8 weeks isolation method and increased my range up to G5 , before i could barely sing C#5 , I improved my gritt and now im workin on that my range is nicely soft and clear and fat like big bear^^, like when Rusell ALllen sings in upper range, I have beyond A5 a natural edgy voice but I´ll figure that out I am shure. So after these words of thanking you I´ll get to the point

I am actually singing a song from Dreamthater " Take the Time" and have problems singing a C#5 holding it long and then add a strong Vibrato in the end, is sooo tough... Its like i lose all my downwards power to create and hould the note, any tipps ?????
Why not isolate that problem note with all three exercises in the isolation method until you have it licked?

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Moritz
Nov 4, 2011 - 12:54PM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

ohh I could never do a trancending tone exercise on C#5 maybe a A4, but I sing that note every day in my siren section A3-G5, just to vibrate seems impossible

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Ben
Nov 4, 2011 - 2:22PM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Moritz
ohh I could never do a trancending tone exercise on C#5 maybe a A4, but I sing that note every day in my siren section A3-G5, just to vibrate seems impossible
Ok, there is your problem. Get control over that note by practicing transcending tone on every not leading up to it (have each one solid before moving to the next) until you get to that one and work on it until it is easy. Vibrato is a byproduct of good technique and a sign of no excess tension.

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Moritz
Nov 5, 2011 - 9:05AM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Thanks for that answer, makes really sense, I ve always thought that the trancending tone ex. is just for developping that kinda voice between fallsetto and fullvoice, however you want to call it.


Nice greets from Austria
Moe

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Ben
Nov 5, 2011 - 10:26AM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Moritz
Thanks for that answer, makes really sense, I ve always thought that the trancending tone ex. is just for developping that kinda voice between fallsetto and fullvoice, however you want to call it.


Nice greets from Austria
Moe


It does do that. In doing that it makes your entire voice stronger and better coordinated. The transcending tone exercise makes it so that if you can sing a note in falsetto that you can also sing it in full voice as well AND everything in between.

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Alkis Tsapanidis
Nov 7, 2011 - 11:21PM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

The main thing is that in order to apply vibrato effectively you must have no tension in your voice. If you're straining as you're hitting the note, you will have a vice grip on it, you won't be able to shake it around. The more effortless a note is, the easier it is to apply vibrato.

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Ben
Nov 8, 2011 - 8:30AM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Alkis Tsapanidis
The main thing is that in order to apply vibrato effectively you must have no tension in your voice. If you're straining as you're hitting the note, you will have a vice grip on it, you won't be able to shake it around. The more effortless a note is, the easier it is to apply vibrato.
This is correct. I think I said almost the same thing in an earlier post: "Vibrato is a byproduct of good technique and a sign of no excess tension."

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Ben
Nov 8, 2011 - 10:00AM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

Ben
Alkis Tsapanidis
The main thing is that in order to apply vibrato effectively you must have no tension in your voice. If you're straining as you're hitting the note, you will have a vice grip on it, you won't be able to shake it around. The more effortless a note is, the easier it is to apply vibrato.
This is correct. I think I said almost the same thing in an earlier post: "Vibrato is a byproduct of good technique and a sign of no excess tension."
Sorry Alkis, I didn't mean to come across as rude. I meant it as agreement.

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Alkis Tsapanidis
Nov 8, 2011 - 1:23PM
Re: Singing vibrato beyond C5

I didn't perceive it as rude anyway. :-P

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