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Welcome to The Voice Connection Sound Off; a forum for users of books like Raise Your Voice, Melody to Madness, The Ultimate Breathing Workout, and Unleash Your Creative Mindset, as well as a place for Vendera Vocal Academy members to interact.

This message board was created so that singers could come together and "sound off" to help support each other during vocal development and the creative process of unleashing the creative spark that occurs when writing and producing music. Currently, myself and vocal coaches Ben Valen, Ray West, and Ryan Wall are here to respond periodicially to your questions, with new vocal coaches coming soon. But, feel free to help each other too:)

This board is here for you to ask questions about my and my fellow coach's books, videos, and MP3 programs, as well as offer others help with our vocal techniques. You may also post videos of yourself and your band to share your music and ask for critiques.

Please refrain from negative comments, profanities, spamming, and inappropriate criticisms of vocal methodologies, vocal coaches, and singers. All negative posts will be deleted and subject to banning without question. I will not respond to negative posts, because, as Mark Twain once said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” With that said, positive criticism is welcome because that is how you'll grow as a singer during the training process.


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Re: RAW TONE

Grit = rasp ok Thank you Phil!!!

I'm searching all over Google right now and a lot of people say that rasp is something natural you either have it or you don't. Jaime says in his book that that is nonsense, so I'm convinced it's something that I can apply to my clean voice, like distortion on a guitar.

I've read a lot on it, and I never really get the sensation I have to get.

"Sing from the diaphragm and feel the resonance in your soft palate." "Apply the Power Push" Something like that...I'm just gonna keep experimenting and I'll report here when I make progress

And Phil I can get that raspy tone but it's by grunting and I understand that that is the LAST thing I need to do to my voice

I wish I could send you a sample but I'm in a hotel in Germany right now on a public computer, so no mic grrrr

But it's basically just clean singing really
Thanks for your help now I know that grit is the same so I'm gonna yaaaay and push and feel the soft palate sensation like Jaime says, even though it's hard to get

Re: RAW TONE

I realised you meant grit or rasp and not screaming - that's what I'm after too! Sorry, I should have mentioned: Jaime teaches that it is all created in essentially the same way which is why I mentioned the screaminglessons website!

Sorry for the vague post! Haha

Re: RAW TONE

HOLY MOTHER OF F YALL

I FINALLY GOT THAT GRITTY SENSATION AGAINST THE SOFT PALATE/BACK OF MA THROAT

So I was watching the Essential Element #1-Technique.wmv Youtube video on Jaime's channel over and over and around the 5:40 mark, Jaime does the grit, and I tried really hard to imitate it, AND I GOT IT!!!!!

So what I did was kinda aim my resonance/voice with a kind of an angle to the back of my throat/soft palate

I aimed it there

And I got the grit sensation finally!!!! ****! I feel it in the back of my throat, right above the vocal cords, not down in the throat, so I feel no strain in my throat

words cant describe my happiness thanks Jaime for that video it really explains a lot!!

So I guess now I gotta roll with it and develop it from here, keep practicing it till I can apply it to ma singing, its not perfect yet, but its there, its a start

**** thanks a lot guys It was kind of hard to understand what sensation you have to feel but I got it

Re: RAW TONE

well done mate. you are right to be thinking of your voice like a guitar, adding distortion etc. think of your voice like a guitar and things start makign sense.

Re: RAW TONE

Congrats!